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Author: Curinfinwe
Date: 2008-10-29 13:32
Does anyone know where I could find the music for the third movement of the Quartet for the End of Time? It's the Abyss of Birds, as you probably know, and I can't seem to find anywhere to buy it. Of course, if it was free, that would be even better.
A clarinetist who I'm acquainted with, Wesley Ferreira, recently performed it, and I'd never heard it before, so I would love to have the music.
Thanks!
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2008-10-29 13:40
$44.95 for the Quartet sheet music at SheetMusicPlus (link on this page). The music is sold as a complete set, as it would be for any other quartet, even though that 3rd movement is a solo movement.
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Author: Nessie1
Date: 2008-10-29 15:10
I realise that it may seem extravagant to buy a whole set of parts for a long-ish work just to play one solo movement but please bear in mind that, if you perform the piece, record it etc and use a part which, for example, you have photocopied, you may well be infringing copywright or similar laws.
I don't know what the rules would be in your area (presumably Nova Scotia/Canada from your ISP) but this could be a consideration.
Vanessa.
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Author: NorbertTheParrot
Date: 2008-10-29 15:50
Nessie1: Your post is deeply misleading. There are two separate issues here.
One issue is whether you can photocopy (or otherwise copy) printed music. The copyright infringement occurs regardless of whether you perform or record the piece. It is the act of copying that constitutes the infringement, regardless of what you do with the copy.
The other issue is whether you can perform the piece. You may infringe the composer's rights by performing the piece in public, regardless of whether you have purchased the printed music. It is the act of performance that constitutes the infringement, regardless of how you found out what notes to play.
The details are different in different jurisdictions, of course.
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Author: Nessie1
Date: 2008-10-29 16:02
Well forgive me for not being a lawyer!
I may have not put what I said quite as clearly as I might have but I think the gist of it remains fairly accurate - that there are rules that could be broken by attempting to make shortcuts and economies of this kind. Ultimately I hope that all of us as serious musicians on this board uphold the law on such matters because we understand that if publishers and composers lose revenue music as a whole will suffer because publishers will have to increase charges, have to reduce the amount of new works they publish etc.
As far as different jurisdictions are concerned, I did allude to this point in my post.
With the most amabile of regards.
Vanessa.
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2008-10-29 16:10
NorbertTheParrot wrote:
> There are two separate
> issues here.
3 at least (mechanical recording is yet another) and possibly more that I haven't even dreamt about ...
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Author: srattle
Date: 2008-10-29 16:10
Curinfinwe:
Just buy the whole part. You'll be happy to have it in the long run.
It's a wonderful and important piece of music, and you will most likely perform the whole thing at some point in your life. Not a bad idea to start learning the rest of it as well. . .and definitely a must to know the rest of the piece to play the third movement properly.
50$ for this masterpiece is not so bad. and you'll be thankful to have a large part of it, rather than a miniscore for the last movements
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Author: NorbertTheParrot
Date: 2008-10-29 17:00
Nessie1, not to labour the point, but what you said, though factually correct, was deeply misleading.
You wrote: "if you perform the piece, record it etc and use a part which, for example, you have photocopied, you may well be infringing copywright [sic] or similar laws."
Any reasonable person is likely to deduce that implies that it *is* OK to photocopy it for private use, so long as you don't perform it.
This deduction, however, would be quite wrong. Photocopying it is illegal whether you perform it or not, albeit some jurisdictions may have looser rules than others.
I know you aren't a lawyer. Neither am I. All the more important, then, that we are both very careful that any statements we make about the law are correct, and not likely to mislead.
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Author: Nessie1
Date: 2008-10-29 17:24
Well, Norbert, I have already apologised and explained further what I meant which, basically, was that if you photocopy music you could well get into some kind of trouble and that the rules about this are there for good reasons.
As we have both said, neither of us is an expert on the law, particularly the law in the OP's presumed home area but I hope that I did at least alert him/her to the possibilty that giving into the temptation to copy could have unwelcome consequences. The ball is then in his/her court to investigate precisely what is allowed wherever he/she is and ensure compliance with the regulations.
I think that should cover everything.
Vanessa.
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Author: Nessie1
Date: 2008-10-30 08:33
Quite - sorry if we got carried away.
I suppose there is probably some kind of point of netiquette about disputes on threads started by others.
Anyway, have fun if you get the Messiaen.
Vanessa.
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