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 Tradeoffs
Author: jeeves 
Date:   2008-10-25 23:43

What's the tradeoff for longer rails and taking in more mouthpiece?
What's the tradeoff for smaller tip opening and harder reeds?

Jeeves

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 Re: Tradeoffs
Author: Geirskogul 
Date:   2008-10-25 23:54

Jazz ---- Classical

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 Re: Tradeoffs
Author: Curinfinwe 
Date:   2008-10-25 23:55

I believe you would need a softer reed for longer rails, and therefore would need a tighter embouchure for that. There's more potential for squeaks, but I find the tone quality is better with longer rails.
I could be wrong, though.

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 Re: Tradeoffs
Author: donald 
Date:   2008-10-26 00:23

yes, you are wrong.

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 Re: Tradeoffs
Author: Curinfinwe 
Date:   2008-10-26 01:10

Of course.

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 Re: Tradeoffs
Author: cxgreen48 
Date:   2008-10-26 03:01

By longer rails, do you mean longer facing?

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 Re: Tradeoffs
Author: Ed Palanker 
Date:   2008-10-26 03:08

Depends on the player, every single person is different so there is no positive or negative. Different bites, different size jaws, different lip thickness and size and on and on and on. I love it when I tell someone I play on a 1.16 tip opening and they assume I must play a soft reed, I don’t. There are so many variables on a mouthpiece facing that one could easily balance another so here too there is no obsolete. You play on, and how, you get the best result, period. ESP www.peabody.jhu.edu/457 Listen to a little Mozart

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 Re: Tradeoffs
Author: pewd 
Date:   2008-10-26 04:02

i like ed's answer. everyones different, you have to experiment find what works for you.

fwiw, i play a long facing , closed tip mouthpiece, with #5 reeds.
but i don' t recommend that for most folks ; #5's are too hard for most players

- Paul Dods
Dallas, Texas

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 Re: Tradeoffs
Author: Paul Aviles 
Date:   2008-10-26 04:03

And here's a weird life experience twist for you. I have ALWAYS played mouthpieces with a longer lay just assuming that I had more control with my lips (embochure) if there was more reed in the mouth - mouthpieces with sizes such as the Vandoren M15, M30, M13 for example.

Just recently I was blown away trying a Vandoren B40 (shorter lay for me) and to my great surprise, I was able to achieve sonorities in the chalameau that were clearer and more bell like than I had before. Of couse you have to take in less mouthpiece for a correspondingly shorter lay. The test is to play an open "G" while gradually taking in more mouthpiece until is squawks. Back off slightly from that point and you have the place where that mouthpiece needs to be placed in your mouth.

I guess what I'm saying is that after all these years I am surprised to learn that one can adapt to different length lays with an open mind and open ears.



...............Paul Aviles

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