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Author: michal
Date: 2008-10-01 09:32
Hi All!
My friend is fixing an old Eflat clarinet, and wondered which pads she should use that would be best for the instrument in the long run- the options are:
Gortex, Valentino and Pisani(I think this is how they are called).
Which one has the biggest acoustical effect? And which one of these lasts longer?
Thanks for the input!
Michal
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Author: clarnibass
Date: 2008-10-01 10:43
By "Pisani" you probably mean Pisoni, which is called Music Center now. They are possibly the biggest pad maker in the world, and they make many different types of pads, so it depends which type. They have bladder/skin, leather, and many different models from each type. Goretex is probably made by Music Center too.
If I remember right Valentino is what you have on your Bb clarinet.
Goretex is what you have on your A clarinet.
I prefer bladder pads, which Music Center (Pisoni) offers several types of. I prefer their feel and the specific type of noise they make when they hit the tone holes compared with other pads. Their only disadvantage is they don't last as long as Goretex, Valentino, leather, etc. I like Goretex too which is very similar to bladder, more water-proof, lasts longer, but MUCH more expensive.
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Author: cigleris
Date: 2008-10-01 22:13
Iceland Clarinet
How do you find Eddie's Pads?? I tried a Yamaha clarinet with them on and found certain notes didn't speak first time, as if the tube wasn't sealing. I notice that an oboeist and bassoonist have these pads fitted.
Any thoughts would be welcome as I was nearly willing to spend the money to have my pair done untill I tried that Yamaha.
Peter Cigleris
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Author: Iceland clarinet
Date: 2008-10-01 23:34
Well your clarinet will cut much better through in the orchestra and finding great reeds will become easier task and the noise that pads make are reduced by over 50%
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Author: clarnibass
Date: 2008-10-02 03:19
Except the fact that the Superpads are quieter than almost any other type of pads, I disagree with everything Iceland wrote...
Peter, if you want I'll email you my opinion of the Superpads.
Nitai
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Author: cigleris
Date: 2008-10-02 11:36
Please do Nitai.
Iceland Clarinet. I found using that instrument (and perhaps it was a bit of a dud in the first place) hard. What do the oboeist and bassoonist in Iceland think of them? I must say I didn't get a sense that these pads will haelp you cut through an orchestra and really my feeling is you don't need to be heard all the time even when playing principal. As for reeds these pads don't help you find the perfect reed. That statement I find quite ridiculous. Granted that pad noise is reduced but what if your plaing contemporary music that requires you to create pad noise?
Peter Cigleris
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Author: michal
Date: 2008-10-02 15:37
Hi All!
Thanks for the input. The Clarinet is about 4o years old, but was barely played on. I don't think superpads are even an option since the repair guy doesn't hold them in his shop. So I guess the question is gortex or Valentino?
michal
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Author: Sarah Elbaz
Date: 2008-10-02 18:50
Is it the clarinet of Shelly? Do you know what maker is it?
There is a reason for my questions.
Thanks,
Sarah
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Author: michal
Date: 2008-10-03 04:32
It is a Clarinet that was bought from a woman in Jerusalem. I don't know her name. I think it was a buffet but not sure. Do u know this clarinet?
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Author: Sarah Elbaz
Date: 2008-10-03 04:35
Yes, I know the clarinet and the women, I'll talk to Shelly. Thanks, Michal
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2008-10-03 15:15
"Granted that pad noise is reduced but what if your plaing contemporary music that requires you to create pad noise?"
Tap your feet harder!
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: clarnibass
Date: 2008-10-05 09:14
Iceland, maybe we didn't mean the same thing when we both say 'noise'. I definitely don't mean TOO MUCH noise. What I meant is the sort of 'pop' that the pad makes, combined with the VERY SLIGHTLY MORE noise the pad makes when it touches the tone hole. I also prefer the more accurate FEEL from a slightly harder (but not too hard) pad. Although this doesn't make the reponse really any different, the feel and 'pop' give an impression of more imediacy and accuracy, and combined with the slightly more pad 'noise' makes it (for me) a lot more fun to play. That said, actually most pads on my clarinet (except a few I put to try different types) are a softer and quieter type, similar in those respects to Superpads, and I have no problem tolerating them (they are definitely as quiet as any pad can be). But that's a very different situation then if I was repadding a clarinet and had to decide which pads to use. Although I just heard that they changed the Superpads recently so maybe they are a little different now. Anyway, even if they are the same, I can understand why some people would prefer them. As far as comments like "cut though the orchestra" etc. they are really just too vague to mean anything.
I prefer always to explain the difference between pads or any other 'equipment', and allow each person to choose if those specific qualities (or sometimes compromises) are what they want. Saying any pad is better without even explaining the difference (advantages and disadvantages) assumes those differences that you consider 'better' are the same for everyone, but they are not.
Post Edited (2008-10-05 10:48)
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