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 history of buffet
Author: janlynn 
Date:   2008-08-15 19:11

where can i find information on the history of buffet?

I dont understand - some were made in france, some in germany. what evette/schaffer is. difference between E11,12,13 R13 ......

is there any place i can read about it?

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 Re: history of buffet
Author: GBK 
Date:   2008-08-15 19:18

For company history, you could always start with the Buffet website:

http://www.buffet-crampon.com/en/history.php

...GBK

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 Re: history of buffet
Author: NorbertTheParrot 
Date:   2008-08-15 19:36

As GBK says, you could read the Buffet site, but prepare to be confused if you do.

It reads:

"In 2003, Boosey & Hawkes separated from the cream of the crop in French wind instrument manufacturing, to join The Music Group".

What actually happened was:

"In 2003, Boosey & Hawkes separated from the cream of the crop in French wind instrument manufacturing [i.e. Buffet], which became part of The Music Group".

Not the same thing at all. Perhaps they should have skipped the flowery language and written it in plain English.

You might find the Wikipedia article more helpful:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffet-Crampon

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 Re: history of buffet
Author: Jack Kissinger 
Date:   2008-08-15 20:24

"Perhaps they should have skipped the flowery language and written it in plain English."

The "flowery language" being their native tongue? What they actually wrote was:

En 1981, BUFFET CRAMPON est racheté par le célèbre groupe d’éditions musicales Boosey & Hawkes de Londres, dont l’origine remonte à 1760. Un réseau de distribution organisé au sein des filiales du Groupe permet à Buffet Crampon de se développer dans le monde entier.

Probably gave it to some Englishman to translate. :)

Best regards,
jnk

Janlynn, if you want to read about the various Buffet models over time, try the search function on this BB. There's been considerable discussion on the topic here.



Post Edited (2008-08-15 20:28)

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 Re: history of buffet
Author: NorbertTheParrot 
Date:   2008-08-15 21:36

Jack:

1. The passage you quote in French doesn't correspond to the English I quoted. The dates alone should make that obvious.

2. Maybe they did give it to an Englishman to translate. Shame they didn't then ask another Englishman to check that the result was actually correct.

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 Re: history of buffet
Author: Jack Kissinger 
Date:   2008-08-16 04:48

Touché!

I did indeed quote the wrong paragraph. The one I should have quoted was:

"En 2003 toujours, Boosey & Hawkes se sépare du fleuron de la manufacture française des instruments à vent au profit de The Music Group..."

The error is in the translation, however, not the original text and I still think it a bit presumptuous to suggest that they should write in plain English. I will concede, though, that perhaps they should have skipped the flowery language and written in plain French.

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 Re: history of buffet
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2008-08-16 14:12

"Probably gave it to some Englishman to translate."

Or used an online translator:

"In 1981, the CRAMP of PLANER is repurchased by the & musical celebrates of Boosey of company d' edition; Hawkes of London, of which l' origin turns over to 1760. A distribution network organized within of subsidiary company of the group makes him the possible cramp of dresser to develop in the whole world."

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

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 Re: history of buffet
Author: Bill 
Date:   2008-08-17 14:21

LOL Chris!

Bill Fogle
Ellsworth, Maine
(formerly Washington, DC)


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 Re: history of buffet
Author: stevesklar 
Date:   2008-08-17 15:50

Chris - where can I get one of these Buffet dressers ?

i think the orig poster was looking for a evolution of the different model of buffet clarinets.
such as
Plastic Evette became the B12
Wooden Evette became the E11
Evette Master Model became the E12
Evette & Schaeffer became the E13
and i forgot the year they all became marked Buffet
and this
http://www.clarinetperfection.com/clsnBuffet.htm#Identification

==========
Stephen Sklar
My YouTube Channel of Clarinet Information

Post Edited (2008-08-17 15:52)

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 Re: history of buffet
Author: tictactux 2017
Date:   2008-08-17 15:54

I usually prefer all-you-can-eat Buffets.

Uhm, yeah. Its shows. [frown]

--
Ben

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