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Author: Jbrd389
Date: 2008-03-09 20:01
Hello all,
I'm working on the clarinet solo from this piece, and wondered if anyone could suggest some fingerings to make the rapid scale to high D (I'm playing this on A clarinet) slightly more facile. Also, a good high A to Bb trill? Let me know your thoughts. Thanks!
Jay
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Author: Ed Palanker
Date: 2008-03-09 23:01
Hi, I learned it on Bb years ago before I realized many people do it on the A clarinet so I don’t know about the high D but try this trill for A to Bb. Over blow the high E, normal fingering for high A, and trill the G# side key, throat tone, and the C#-G# pinky simultaneously. It should work well for you if you support, it does for me. ESP
www/paeabody.jhu.edu/457
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Author: GBK
Date: 2008-03-10 00:02
Ed's fingering for the A-Bb trill is the best in tune choice, although it takes a bit of left hand coordination to simultaneously depress the throat G# key and left pinky C#/G#.
Another A to Bb trill which is easier to finger, is to play the standard high A fingering and trill to Bb by just depressing the throat A key ...GBK
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Author: smross
Date: 2008-03-10 12:34
You might also try the overblown E fingering for A, and then try trilling your left hand thumb for the Bb.
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Author: mnorswor
Date: 2008-03-11 13:17
The fingering I use in this passage for the high D is the same fingering as for D an octave lower. So...
O X X | X O O Eb
And for the A-Bb trill, I finger the A and trill as GBK mentioned by trilling the A key. Hope it helps!
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Author: Ed Palanker
Date: 2008-03-11 19:31
The suggestion of using the Eb clarinet is a good idea for a performance, the second clarinet then begins the run and you finish it on the Eb, or the other way around if you don't play Eb and the second does. Some old recordings us the piccolo. The problem is that doesn't help if you want to learn it for an audition. There is many other fingering in some of the fingering charts if the ones suggested do not work. E-mail me and I'll send you a few if you don't have a chart.
Don't forget, you don't have to play the whole thing on the A clarinet. You can play that passage on the Bb and then switch to the A after the run. Then you only have to go to a C#. I use the standard C 100/100 fingering plus the pinky RH and adding the Eb side key, or any other key that brings the pitch up. But there are other fingerings for that too.
By the way, trilling with the A key does work and it's a little easier but at least on my clarinet it is very sharp. My earlier suggestion is pretty well in tune, and not so difficult to coordinate with a little practice. ESP
www.peabody.jhu.edu/457
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Author: clarinetist04
Date: 2008-03-11 22:23
Overblow the altissimo D. Fingering like mentioned above, just tighten the embouchure and blow a little harder. Also, make sure you have that Eb key down or you will get a D#.
Post Edited (2008-03-11 22:23)
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Author: Simon Aldrich
Date: 2008-03-11 22:38
Some people play the passage on D clarinet.
If I remember correctly you have 8 measures to switch to D clarinet.
This makes the high note at the end of the run a high A.
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Simon Aldrich
Clarinet Faculty - McGill University
Principal Clarinet - Orchestre Metropolitain de Montreal
Artistic Director - London Chamber Music Festival
Clarinet - Nouvel Ensemble Moderne
Buffet-Crampon Artist/Clinician
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Author: donald
Date: 2008-03-12 05:08
last time i played this for an audition i played the outer sections on A clarinet and the middle bit (with the run up to the high note) on the C clarinet (making the top note a B, and the run considerably less problematic). It went very well, but i didn't get the gig.
The fellow who won the audition played the piece on B flat with a great fingering that Frank Celata had taught him- i have since lost this fingering, but remember that it didn't work for sustained notes, but was very reliable in the scale passage
dn
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Author: Jbrd389
Date: 2008-03-14 03:21
Thanks for all the suggestions for this. I am playing it for an upcoming audition, so giving part of the run to another player isn't an option (though I have heard this is rather common for performances). Trilling the A key works great for the A/Bb trill, and I'm still playing with a couple options for the high D. It's tough, but I remember how long it took to get comfortable playing up to the C...
Jay
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Author: SamKaestner
Date: 2008-03-14 14:24
I play the high D by overblowing the high A. Same fingering as high E and A gets a pretty good D for me. It's also fairly easy to get to in the context of the scale.
--Sam
Sam Kaestner
West Point Band Clarinetist
www.samkaestner.com
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Author: David Niethamer
Date: 2008-03-20 02:26
Sorry to chime in so late here.
Sam Kaestner wrote:
> I play the high D by overblowing the high A.
> Same fingering as high E and A gets a pretty good D for me.
> It's also fairly easy to get to in the context of the scale.
I agree, and when I played this variation on the A clarinet, that's what I did. Floyd Williams posted some other fingerings for this run to the KLARINET list a few years ago when we discussed it there. I'm sure a search would turn them up.
Also, whoever posted the a/Bb trill with the A key, works great for me. When I played it, I used the G#/C# keys to trill, and coordination wasn't a big problem, but one key is easier.
I now play this on C clarinet, which is easier on a number of levels if you own one. The last phrase of the solo only goes up to clarion "B" instead of altissimo "D", the way it does if you play it on A clarinet. There's no good way to "fake" the D on A clarinet - the tone and pitch of any alternates are just too sketchy.
If you play it on C clarinet, you do have to switch to Bb for one phrase, but it's in one of the easier early sections, so with a properly greased mouthpiece, it's not a big issue.
On the Richmond Symphony recording (Elan 2222) of this piece, I had the assistance of the Eb player for the big run. Of the half dozen times I've played it, the recording was the easiest. Nothing like multiple takes to get each phrase the way you want it!!
David
David
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