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Author: chito
Date: 2008-02-13 13:51
Hi i need help any advise or tips how to improve the collapse finger .
Recently my right hand fingers get collapse specially
the 1st & 3rd fingers very hard to play and im so worry thank you .
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Author: bmcgar ★2017
Date: 2008-02-13 14:54
Photographs would help, Chito.
It's difficult to understand what you mean when you say "collapsed fingers."
B.
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2008-02-13 17:32
I think you are talking about what some have referred to as "Broken Noses," where the first knuckel bends in toward the clarinet.
All I can say for this, is that you need to keep more of a curve to your fingers, covering the tone holes with more of the "tip" of the fingers than the pads.
............Paul Aviles
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Author: Blake Arrington
Date: 2008-02-14 00:36
I've had a few students with this problem. They actually came up with a great solution...they got some large paper clips and bent them to make what looked like an arch with two rings on each end. They would slip it on like a ring and have the curved portion under their fingers...this would keep the knuckles from breaking.
Hope this helps.
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Author: marshall
Date: 2008-02-14 05:28
Relax your fingers more. I used to have the same problem, and it's usually a sign that you're putting to much pressure on the instrument.
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Author: skygardener
Date: 2008-02-14 12:11
Hi Chito,
You and I met at the ICA festival in Tama in 2005. I am living in Japan, too. Are you still in Kyushu?
Anyway, as for your problem. I remember that you had rather large hands and that causes you to come down on the tone holes from a ver steep angle (if you curve your fingers). I suspect that your clarinet has the lower joint rings about even with the tone holes. Is this true? Collapsing your fingers allows you to push the rings all the way down. If my hunch is right, and your rings are low, then you should try to have them raised a little. This will help you, I think.
Contact me offline if you are coming to Tokyo area.
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Author: Synonymous Botch
Date: 2008-02-14 13:03
A larger thumbrest will encourage a more open hand position.
The Ridenour saddle, and Ton Kooiman designs work well.
I prefer the TK Maestro for this purpose.
It may also be worth considering the position of your lower arms, at the elbow.
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Author: chito
Date: 2008-02-14 13:33
Skygardener,
You and I met at the ICA festival in Tama in 2005. I am living in Japan, too. Are you still in Kyushu?
Anyway, as for your problem. I remember that you had rather large hands and that causes you to come down on the tone holes from a ver steep angle (if you curve your fingers). I suspect that your clarinet has the lower joint rings about even with the tone holes. Is this true? Collapsing your fingers allows you to push the rings all the way down. If my hunch is right, and your rings are low, then you should try to have them raised a little. This will help you, I think.
Hi thank you for the adviced i will try to raised a little and try to look very carefully.
I remember you im still in kyusyu ill contact you when i go to tokyo thank you.
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Author: chito
Date: 2008-02-14 13:37
I've had a few students with this problem. They actually came up with a great solution...they got some large paper clips and bent them to make what looked like an arch with two rings on each end. They would slip it on like a ring and have the curved portion under their fingers...this would keep the knuckles from breaking.
I start to do this today when i read your post thank you .
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Author: chito
Date: 2008-02-14 13:48
A larger thumbrest will encourage a more open hand position.
The Ridenour saddle, and Ton Kooiman designs work well.
I prefer the TK Maestro for this purpose.
It may also be worth considering the position of your lower arms, at the elbow.
Thank you for responce i used Ton Kooiman Maestro before but not work for me. And i bought Ridenour saddle last week and im using now.
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2008-02-14 16:57
Here are three exercises from Larry Guy demonstrated at the Clarinet Symposium several years ago:
1. Put your hand flat on a table and pull it back from the elbow, pressing your fingertips into the table to resist.
2. Put the heel of your hand on a table, fingers slightly curved, and do "fingertip pushups."
3. Close your hand around a tennis ball, squeezing with your fingertips.
By the way, you asked the same question a couple of years ago http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=179321&t=179174.
Ken Shaw
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