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 Tonguing
Author: nes 
Date:   2007-08-23 02:17

Hey all,

Well can you tell me if tonguing four semi quavers at crotchet = 120 is good?

What speed should you work for, both for tonguing single notes and scales/variety of notes? and how do you approach the build up of tonguing speed?

Cheers

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 Re: Tonguing
Author: EEBaum 
Date:   2007-08-23 02:28

Much of being able to tongue faster isn't so much tongue movement, but rather coordination with everything else, especially with the fingers.

Make sure your tongue is following what your fingers are doing, and not the other way around. Always be thinking of where your fingers are and where they'll soon be, with special mental emphasis to the first note of the next upcoming group (say, the group of 4), and knowing where the groups of groups are going, and so forth. If done properly (there's a lot to it), this alone can add probably 20bpm to your tonguing speed.

-Alex
www.mostlydifferent.com

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 Re: Tonguing
Author: Bassie 
Date:   2007-08-23 12:19

That's about my limit for single tongueing if I have to keep it up for more than four semis. A single group of four is easier.

You can learn to double tongue, dagadagadaga or diddle-iddle, but beyond a certain point keeping the fingers in sync becomes the real problem. We used to call it a case of the 'fleh's when it all goes to pot (cos that's what it sounds like: fleh fleh fleh fleh). It's all about relaxation...

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 Re: Tonguing
Author: Tobin 
Date:   2007-08-23 13:43

For double tonguing, why not try something with less tongue motion, like "tee kee"

Semi quavers at 120 is moderately fast. Unfortunately there is always some piece that requires faster tonguing...so back off to the practice room with me!

James

Gnothi Seauton

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 Re: Tonguing
Author: Bassie 
Date:   2007-08-23 15:36

> something with less tongue motion, like "tee kee"

Yeah, I like the sound of that. Half the job is being as gentle as possible. You can single tongue with a 't' sound... but it might be quicker to think 'd' or even 'n'.

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