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Author: Koo Young Chung
Date: 2007-04-16 01:25
Playing is good,but I can't say I like the music.
Same thing over and over,good finger exercise.
Post Edited (2007-04-16 01:25)
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Author: Chalumeau Joe
Date: 2007-04-16 02:11
Sounded pretty good to me! I can picture Goodman/Norvo playing something like this.
Joe
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Author: William
Date: 2007-04-17 14:21
Amazing!! I have often tried to circular breath, but without success. Benito makes it seem effortless. Just how do you do that without lossing support for the sound? I understand that you have to store air in your mouth to sustain the tone while taking in air through the nose, but no matter how fast I try to inhale, the mouth air is used up too quickly and my sound dies. Maybe if I had chops like Dizzy G.................
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Author: Steve Epstein
Date: 2007-04-17 17:23
Except for the bass player, it doesn't look like anyone is reading anything, either.
I wonder if this was originally intended as a string piece, who normally play fast continuous arpeggios and don't have to worry about breathing.
Steve Epstein
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Author: Sylvain
Date: 2007-04-17 18:16
Good stuff, I think he is still a student...
I wish him all the best for a great career ahaead of him.
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Sylvain Bouix <sbouix@gmail.com>
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Author: John J. Moses
Date: 2007-04-17 19:53
Here's the current BSO Clarinet section:
William R. Hudgins
Principal Clarinet,
Boston Symphony Orchestra
Second Clarinet, Vacancy
Boston Symphony Orchestra
Thomas Martin
Associate Principal Clarinet and E-flat clarinet,
Boston Symphony Orchestra
Principal Clarinet, Boston Pops Orchestra
Craig Nordstrom
Bass Clarinet,
Boston Symphony Orchestra
JJM
Légère Artist
Clark W. Fobes Artist
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2007-04-17 19:59
John J. Moses wrote:
> Here's the current BSO Clarinet section:
Benito is Eb with the Boston Philharmonic, not Boston Symphony.
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Author: Sylvain
Date: 2007-04-17 21:02
The Boston Phil is a semi-pro orchestra, it is also a place where a lot of the talented Boston students train before they go on to higher paying gigs. I seem to have read somewhere Benito Meza is currently studying with Jonathan Cohler?
Anyway, regardless of his official status, he has some serious chops.
-S
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Sylvain Bouix <sbouix@gmail.com>
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Author: rc_clarinetlady
Date: 2007-04-17 23:45
I'd say he has some serious chops! That was pretty amazing. What a talented young man! I'll watch for his recordings in the near future.
Rebecca
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Author: sherman
Date: 2007-04-18 01:15
About three minutes of fast even notes, played in octaves with cello with only about six birds in the clarinet. Circular breathing is nothing if you lay eggs. and that is only one listen. next!
Not comparable to Goodman and Norvo, who played for beauty not for fast.
S. Friedland
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Author: Steve Epstein
Date: 2007-04-18 05:18
This to me is a type of folk-style playing. You can criticize it on the basis of its repetitiveness and its simplicity made to seem more complex and technical than it really may be, but I think it is a valid piece of music and valid clarinet playing. And there is probably an audience for it: South American listeners, people who like Appalachian fiddle music, and perhaps school kids playing the horn who may be motivated to practice when they listen to this young player ripping it.
Steve Epstein
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Author: Arnoldstang
Date: 2007-04-18 06:29
I would have to agree with Steve. There is a raw excitement and vitality in this playing and music. It is most obvious when it stops.....somewhat like Michael Flatley and Irish dance. Your brain will no doubt interrupt the experience with thoughts of it being repetitious and without nuance but if you let this go , the music works and you tap your feet and maybe even dance.
Freelance woodwind performer
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Author: jack
Date: 2007-04-18 07:29
OK, first the composer is Jacob do Bandolin, not Mandolin. Although he played the Mandolin. And yes Steve, that is choro music. Two recently released albums are available of his classic choro music.
Wasn't the clarinet guy playing a Rossi?
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Author: BobD
Date: 2007-04-18 12:00
Aah, but how about that washboard? Can't help but hear Perpetuo Moto in the clarinet part.
Bob Draznik
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Author: John J. Moses
Date: 2007-04-18 13:33
Yes, Jack, you are almost correct. The composer is, in fact, Jacob do Bandolim, not Mandolin or Bandolin.
My point was:
Isn't this kid good, and a talented clarinet student, who can circular-breathe?
Maybe Bandolim is a bit repetitive, but so are many other "show" pieces for the clarinet. As was mentioned earlier, Benito may serve as an inspiration for other kids his age, who have aspirations to become really good professional players.
JJM
Légère Artist
Clark W. Fobes Artist
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Author: jack
Date: 2007-04-19 06:34
Response to John Moses:
I believe you have discovered an incredibly gifted clarinetist in Benito Meza and I'm so pleased that you shared this video with the board. Isn't it ironic that the only way one person could think to put him down was to compare with B.G.? My opinion is that I heard an incomparable and probably unnapproacheable version of that particular composition. What a thrill to hear and an even bigger thrill to play! I was introduced to Brazil's "Choro" style music at the year 2000 ClarinetFest in Norman, Ok, when Pacquito D'Rivera and Paulo Sergio Santos played so superhumanly on a medley of Pixinguinha compositions, they received one of the loudest and longest applause that I can ever recall hearing. The next night Paulo put on a concert almost entirely devoted to Choro that was also fantastic and very enthusiastically received. Anyway, Jacob do Bandolim was one of the originators of Choro and was the great Jewish Brazilian Choro composer and bandolin player. A new album was recently released celebrating his compositions entitled "Great Jewish Music: Jacob do Bandolim. Anat Cohen, an extremely gifted clarinetist and sax player based in NYC is one of the many artists that contributed to this album and I recommend it highly. Ben Perowsky, a clarinetist that I am not familiar with also made a fine contribution to the album. Well, lets hope that we hear much more of Benito Meza. Lots of luck to the rest of us as we (or at least I) flail around hopelessly attempting to learn how to circular breathe. Kind of off topic, but I will take this opportunity to say that I picked up an Albert bore, with Boehm system, one year old Rossi Bb Clarinet two weeks ago. I love it!
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Author: John J. Moses
Date: 2007-04-23 00:25
Here's a nice email from young Benito. Check out this new YouTube video.
"Hi John-
I hope you are doing very well. My name is Benito Meza
(clarinet player from Colombia). I want to thank you
for posting the video on The Clarinet BBoard.
Thank you for appreciating what we are doing!! That
is what keep us going, and trying to be better humans
as well as musicians.
If you are interested I have another video where I
play music of Mr. Eddie Daniels. The link to see it
is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6sMIUjfvn8
I hope to get in contact with you, and thanks again
for your nice gesture.
Benito"
JJM
Légère Artist
Clark W. Fobes Artist
Post Edited (2007-04-23 00:32)
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Author: musiciandave
Date: 2007-04-23 13:10
I think he's really good! You can't compare that with "benny goodman" as it's apples to coconuts...........
Very cool, and in the style was wonderful.
I heard Gigliotti have 6 "eggs" in the 1st 2 pages of the Mozart Concerto the 1st performance live. (I started counting after the 2nd one) - it happens.......
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Author: John Morton
Date: 2007-04-25 00:18
I an an enthusiastic choro fan. I keep a book of them on my stand for practice in agility, endurance and playing in the sharp keys.
Re: Jacob do Bandolim - some famous choro players take their instrument as a stage name - "bandolim" is the Brazilian word for mandolin. In the US the mandolinists use the term for the the Brazilian version of the instrument, which has flat top, flat back and a broad teardrop shape.
As Steve Epstein points out, the continuous arpeggiated pieces tend to originate on the mandolin, a stringed instrument. (I know there are choro cellists, but I've never heard of a violinist.) Mr. Meza is fine example of the virtuosity of the young Brazilian players, and as a clarinetist I can appreciate the technical obstacles of tackling a virtuoso mandolin testpiece like Voo da Mosca. I think the title has to do with the flight of a mosquito.
Re: the repetition in the music - I guess this is true of most traditional dance forms, and it doesn't bother me. In fact it is also true of baroque classical dance forms. Voo da Mosca has the form AABBACCA, also very common in French musette. I feel refreshed every time the key changes, as do dancers. (Of course much of this music is quite far from it's origins in dance, and I don't think Mosca would get anybody out on the dance floor!)
John Morton
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Author: clarnibass
Date: 2007-04-25 05:00
I think the piece is just short enough not to be too repeatitive. It's a piece I wouldn't listen to many times in a row, but that's not a bad thing in this case I think.
William, have you ever actually seen someone circular breath just in front of you in person? After I managed to circular breath with the straw/water I still couldn't do it on clarinet. Then one time I saw someone do it on clarinet in front of me (and he wasn't even very good) but for some reason that really showed me how to do it and I "got" it that day. Then it took a few more months of really controlling it. Although for my music I circular breath all the time, I actually think it's mostly unecessary for most people. There are great players who can't circular breath.
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