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 Re: Why is the low F flat?
Author: Tony Pay 2017
Date:   2006-12-12 13:08

BTW, I see that originally skygardener wrote:

>> I can't really figure out how it can be that all the other notes are quite well in tune, but only those lowest notes are flat. It would make sence if the notes got progressivly flatter as one went down the scale- logic and such. But the B is good, the A is good, the G is good, and the F is not.>>

In fact, B and A have a tendency to sharpness -- but the answer to your question is that both E and F, though the latter to a lesser extent, are 'untypical' notes, because unlike all other notes on the instrument they don't have an extensive tonehole lattice beneath their first open hole. They also have to have the twelfths above at least tractable for the player. Thus, on an extended instrument, E and F can be better for the first reason, and all notes lower than that don't have to worry about the twelfths above.

The main component of the fix on a standard instrument is a flare in the lower joint, and the problem with that is that the 'clarinetty' quality of the whole instrument is somewhat compromised, as I wrote previously. (A flare affects higher notes than just the E and F, it turns out.) German makers refuse to give up that clarinetty quality, hence the necessity for a corrective key on their instruments.

The best players can produce a flexible and rich sound on the French style instrument; but anyone accustomed to both sorts of instrument will agree with me that the German style instrument, whilst not without its own problems, produces very naturally a sound that is a lovely musical tool for the player.

Tony



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