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Author: Old Geezer
Date: 2006-09-18 02:51
Just watched the NY Phil season opener on PBS.
As a matter of triva interest...it seemed to me the first clarinet (S.D.) was playing a Selmer and the second (Pascual) was playing a Tosca. Am I right or wrong?
Anyone on the board know what kind of instruments they play? I don't have to know, but I wouldn't mind knowing....
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Author: John J. Moses
Date: 2006-09-18 03:25
Hi:
I didn't watch the Phil. broadcast, but I've worked with the NY Phil. guys very recently.
Stanley almost always plays one of his wonderful Buffet R-13s, or a new Buffet. Pascual & Nuccio both played Buffets the last time I saw them, and Steve plays a very old Buffet Bass Clarinet (Eb), with a low "C" extension when needed.
It's usually an all Buffet section, but perhaps they were trying out some new equipment for the PBS broadcast?
JJM
Légère Artist
Clark W. Fobes Artist
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Author: vin
Date: 2006-09-18 04:14
I didn't see the broadcast; I have seen Pascual played Chadash clarinets in other broadcasts.
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Author: Lelia Loban ★2017
Date: 2006-09-18 12:04
I did see the broadcast when PBS re-ran it yesterday, and noticed that, in the rehearsal clips shown during the interval, the string section was really giving Maazel the business re. articulation and rhythm in Beethoven's 3rd symphony. He'd tell them exactly what he wanted (strong articulation, a more percussive quality than most conductors use). They'd play it exactly the way they played it before. He'd stop them and tell them again what he wanted. They'd play it the same way again. Back and forth they went.
Maazel, who plays the violin, sang examples of what he wanted to hear. He told the musicians to listen to the tympani play the phrase most in question. I don't think professional musicians could possibly misunderstand instructions as clear as those. The New York Phil. has more of a reputation than most orchestras for "testing" conductors and for acting stubborn, but it's not as if Maazel's a newbie with that orchestra. He's conducted them more than 100 times, at least--maybe a lot more than 100. These musicians (I'm not including Drucker, who wasn't directly involved in these discussions) bordered on insubordinate. Maazel got what he wanted, finally, but sheesh!
Though I think of myself as a bit of an equipment junkie, I didn't notice what clarinet Drucker played, but did notice that he removed the mouthpiece and swabbed out at least three times during long rests in the Beethoven symphony.
Lelia
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Author: ariel3
Date: 2006-09-18 13:42
I paid close attention to shots of Stanley Drucker's horn and noticed the silver oval insert at the upper end of the top section. I assumed that he must be playing a Buffet Signature.
I will be watching this post to see if my hunch was correct.
This comment from a Mazzeo survivor.
Gene Hall
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Author: Alseg
Date: 2006-09-18 13:59
Buffet does not make a "Signature."
Perhaps it is a Buffet Festival or Prestige that SD uses. Selmer makes the Signature, and the logo is not an oval inlay.
I know for absolute certainty that MN uses a standard R13 Bb and an RC Buffet Eb.
Former creator of CUSTOM CLARINET TUNING BARRELS by DR. ALLAN SEGAL
-Where the Sound Matters Most(tm)-
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Author: larryb
Date: 2006-09-18 14:23
I know for a certainty that Drucker owns (or owned) a set of Selmer Signatures, but I would be surprised to learn that he played them in concert with the NY Phil. From what I've heard, he seems to be a creature of habit. And why not?
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Author: clarnibass
Date: 2006-09-18 15:00
"I assumed that he must be playing a Buffet Signature."
I thought it was the Selmer Prestige 
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2006-09-18 15:51
I've seen Drucker up-close playing a Buffet Prestige Bb, with a silver plate on the upper joint. I assume that's what he played on the broadcast.
He's used only one mouthpiece, a Lelandais/Chedeville, for many years.
I've seen Pascual Martinez at a couple of master classes, and he's always played a Buffet (with no silver polate -- presumably an R-13). Ditto for Mark Nuccio.
Like Lelia, I listened to the rehearsal and was surprised at how little the orchestra adjusted to Maazel's requests, though I did hear slight differences. Perhaps it would have been clearer if WQXR had broadcast the concert, but their sound feed is always a couple of seconds behind the TV, so I listen to the TV sound anyway.
Ken Shaw
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Author: ariel3
Date: 2006-09-18 16:43
Hey folks, My face is red. In my earlier post I said Buffet Signature - but what I meant to say was PRESTIGE.
Thanks to all of you for jumping in on this one. At least I was thinking about the right horn.
humbly, Gene Hall
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Author: Old Geezer
Date: 2006-09-18 16:46
I thought I saw the Buffet Tosca metal inset on the upper joint of Pascual's clarinet.
The little oval metal inset on SD's clarinet is familier...but on what I can't remember. I thought it was on a Selmer. I could be wrong, I remember being wrong once oh so many years ago.
It was billed as a gala performance. I thought it was rather routine, I could be wrong there too!
Clarinet Redux
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Author: Terry Stibal
Date: 2006-09-18 21:19
The word "gala" has been so overused by publicity types as to become meaningless. Down here, I think that it takes the meaning "concert performance, but with more upscale dress requirements for the women".
leader of Houston's Sounds Of The South Dance Orchestra
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Author: CPW
Date: 2006-09-18 23:30
Gala from Galactic Big Bang, meaning The Big Hit for More Cash.
Gala means that the patrons are being hit up for more $$$ and a chance to show off their coffers by attending a little extra concert at the start of the season.
A fancy black-tie event is usually part of the festivities, costing extra, but champagne is included.
Marketing by any other name costs twice as much.
BYOWallet
Against the windmills of my mind
The jousting pole splinters
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Author: Tim P
Date: 2006-09-20 18:56
a bit OT, but close. did anyone notice that the Oboe player's hair color changed part way thought the performance or did my Mother in law imagine it.
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Author: diz
Date: 2006-09-21 01:31
Quite frankly, who gives a tincker's cuss??!! The fact is that no matter what SD played he would make it sound beautiful. Period.
Without music, the world would be grey, very grey.
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Author: JessKateDD
Date: 2006-09-21 04:06
I didn't see the broadcast, but I know the common practice these days is to record the entire concert during dress rehearsal so they can splice in parts that didn't go so well on the concert. Perhaps different oboe players did the dress and the concert?
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Author: msloss
Date: 2006-09-22 00:08
To the best of my knowledge Pascual M came back from the Buffet grand opening in Jacksonville a few months ago with a set of Toscas. Seems likely that's what he was blowing the gig on.
And yes, Mr. D's horn was very likely a Prestige. He's got one where I believe he took the extra keywork off which might account for the lack of certainty on-camera. As was said, creature of habit.
Since we are splitting reed fibres, MN plays a RC *Prestige* Eb, not a standard RC.
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