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 LeBlanc LL vs Pete Fountain Bores
Author: chazman 
Date:   2006-05-25 13:12

Good Afternoon,
I’m looking or confirmation of the bore shape and diameter or both the LeBlanc LL’s circa 1964 and the Pete Fountain of the same period. Any assistance in this matter would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance

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 Re: LeBlanc LL vs Pete Fountain Bores
Author: Don Berger 
Date:   2006-05-25 13:35

Hi again Chazman - Have you made a "Search" in our archives? I believe what you are asking for, is there, it may take a bit of reading , otherwise its quite a task to reproduce it. Don

Thanx, Mark, Don

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 Re: LeBlanc LL vs Pete Fountain Bores
Author: chazman 
Date:   2006-05-25 13:47

Don
I have searched the archives, the results are sparce. Is it possible that we may place them in one breif thread here? It would be greatly appriciated.



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 Re: LeBlanc LL vs Pete Fountain Bores
Author: Mark Charette 
Date:   2006-05-25 14:13

chazman wrote:

> Don
> I have searched the archives, the results are sparce. Is it
> possible that we may place them in one breif thread here? It
> would be greatly appriciated.

Please go right ahead, gather the relevant thread references, and post them here, chazman. I'm sure others would appreciate it.

They won't appear by themselves, and expecting others to do the work would be selfish.

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 Re: LeBlanc LL vs Pete Fountain Bores
Author: chazman 
Date:   2006-05-25 14:34

Mark,
How does one go about constructing the links. Please lets not make assumptions. I was Also looking for new information and help as well.
Thank you



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 Re: LeBlanc LL vs Pete Fountain Bores
Author: GBK 
Date:   2006-05-25 14:51

chazman wrote:

> Don,
> How does one go about constructing the links.


[ Reading the Help/Rules section http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/help.html?f=1 would be a good place to start [wink] - GBK ]

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 Re: LeBlanc LL vs Pete Fountain Bores
Author: chazman 
Date:   2006-05-25 15:11

These are the relevant links found thus far reguarding this topic:

[ The Help/Rules has instructions for making "clickable" links ... I've edited these, but you should check to find out how to make them in the future. ]
From: B.F.
Date: 2001-08-31 10:39:54
Subj: RE: Leblanc L7 Bore Size ?

http://www.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=53494&t=53325

From: Ralph G
Date: 2003-04-22 10:55:36
Subj: Re: R13 and Lablanc LL

http://www.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=111975&t=111974

From: red neill
Date: 2000-03-04 20:25
Subj: RE: Pete Fountain model by Leblanc

http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=18309&t=18305



Post Edited (2006-05-25 15:40)

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 Re: LeBlanc LL vs Pete Fountain Bores
Author: Mark Charette 
Date:   2006-05-25 15:56

chazman wrote:

> Don,
> How does one go about constructing the links. Please lets not
> make assumptions. I was Also looking for new information and
> help as well.

That was Mark, not Don, and yes, I missed the "we" in your original post.

My bad.

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 Re: LeBlanc LL vs Pete Fountain Bores
Author: Don Berger 
Date:   2006-05-25 16:38

Hi Chaz - Mark C and GBK run our fine BBoard, some of our reader-posters are skillful in site "reconstruction", I am NOT, sorry. Much of our "re-searching" takes place in libraries and in other internet sites and requires hours, even to find simple answers. If only bore character and approximate bore size is your present target, both horns are almost certainly cylindrical, or nearly so, down to the mid lower joint. They originated in the time period when Buffet [Carree et al] was researching modified [conical, poly-cyl] bores for tuning the 12ths, and patent considerations were prob. important. The PF's and earlier/later big bore Leblancs [15.0 mm] were among a few others made in Europe and US. The LL's and others were of "medium bore size" , perhaps 14.7 to14.9, ?most about 14.8?, no "small bores" 14.6 [like Buffets] to the best of my knowledge. My study of bore configurations is very rudimentary and I have the feeling, "I've told you more than what I really know".. Hope this is of some help. Don

Thanx, Mark, Don

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 Re: LeBlanc LL vs Pete Fountain Bores
Author: Synonymous Botch 
Date:   2006-05-25 21:23

If it helps any, my Pete Fountain model (the wooden varietal) is 16.05mm across the bore. It's a MONSTER to play, and tunes better than bagpipes.

These are not for the faint of heart, that's for certain.

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 Re: LeBlanc LL vs Pete Fountain Bores
Author: Don Berger 
Date:   2006-05-26 13:56

SB - Are you positive that its 16 mm [not 15], 16 is in a Basset horn [in F orG] bore range, is it not ?? As far as I have read/seen only B & H made some bores [1010] much abpve 15mm. Comments/others please. A good cl f[r]iend inherited an interesting Leblanc, ser. # 3xxx which has 3 features, 1. the 7th ring for 3rd Fi,LH for fork Eb/Bb, BUT no small tone hole [for correct intonation], 2. a "doubled " F/C pad [like my Selmer 33 bass cl] and 3. a Stubbims-like register key with the same 2 pads [for good pinch Bb and better {according to S in his book} 12 ths tuning]. I'd guess its a mid '50's cl ! ? A museum model ? HELP, Please. Don

Thanx, Mark, Don

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 Re: LeBlanc LL vs Pete Fountain Bores
Author: Synonymous Botch 
Date:   2006-05-26 22:42

I just checked - my memory being suspect.

The bore measures 15.05 mm.

maxi mea culpa



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