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 R13 Green line
Author: chito 
Date:   2006-02-12 12:05

Hi to every one i need some help im planning to buy R13 green line and i need some information and tips about this instrument. I used Buffet Festival but my instrument had cracked recently on the upper joint and im worry now. All clarinetist playing  R13green line please let me know your opinion? Thank you ...

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 Re: R13 Green line
Author: Paul Aviles 
Date:   2006-02-12 13:25

WONDERFUL instrument. This clarinet is identical to the African Blackwood version in every way. I find that the intonation is a bit more consistant (perhaps because wood shavings and glue don't shift and settle like a piece of wood?). And of course it is impervious to the vagaries of humidity and wide swings of temperature (that is, in terms of cracking, not pitch).

The ONLY slight difference is that the wood horn is just a little more vibrant. So....if you need a "tank" that plays really well and your not having to match perfectly with Larry Combs sitting next to you......go for it.


..........Paul Aviles



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 Re: R13 Green line
Author: sdr 
Date:   2006-02-12 22:26

I bought mine 2 yrs ago and love it. My teacher and I went together and played 8 horns back and forth for about 2 hrs -- 5 wood R13's and 3 Greenlines. We narrowed it down to one wood and one Greenline w/ the best sound. They sounded totally different from each other, but both excellent. I finally chose the Greenline. I am NOT a professional player and cannot be sure of daily use, neurotic horn warming rituals, consistent humidification, etc. I am a flyfisher and there is an analogy of clarinets to flyrods. Traditionally flyrods were made of cane. Nowadays cane rods cost a small fortune. They feel unique and are romantically connected to a great flyfishing tradition. They require lots of special care. On the other hand, a graphite flyrod ALWAYS out-fishes a cane rod: They cast farther, faster, and more consistently. They are more durable. They cost less and they last longer. Given equal attention to craftsmanship, those whose first priority is performance, always buy a graphite rod. I applied this logic to my clarinet purchase, got a Greenline and never looked back.

-sdr

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 Re: R13 Green line
Author: chito 
Date:   2006-02-13 08:07

Thank you for some information . Today while im searching R13 greenline i found that festival model had greenline edition and im confuse now because im get to used in festival sound and im looking for my backup instrument. Im thingking now buffet festival green line is better thant R13 because of the quality but my problem now i dont have enough idea about the sound and color of festival green line. I heard that green line and grenadilla is different sound and color. Any information about this buffet festival green line.

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 Re: R13 Green line
Author: Paul Aviles 
Date:   2006-02-13 11:22

Just a hunch, that the playing characteristics within the model lines will be the same save for the slightly less vibrant sound for the Green Line as mentioned above.

Maybe it is best to stay ahead of the curve as SDR states. Eventually there won't be any more African Blackwood at all. This was Buffet's rationale from the start.


.................Paul Aviles

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 Re: R13 Green line
Author: Brenda Siewert 
Date:   2006-02-13 12:56

Play-test both the R-13 greenline and the Festival greenline, if possible. If you want to take your wood Festival with you that would be a good idea. Try the instruments side by side and decide.

I have owned a Greenline R-13 and had very nice success with it. It was selected from 5 other greenlines in stock and had a great tone. I used it as a back up to my wooden Buffet. They're very nice instruments. I used a wooden Greg Smith Kaspar style mouthpiece with it and it added depth and warmth to the overall tone color.

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 Re: R13 Green line
Author: Phat Cat 
Date:   2006-02-13 14:08

Not that it matters, but perhaps Buffet's rational was that they saw a way to make a profit from what would otherwise be waste wood and dust. As long as the instrument plays OK, it doesn't really matter what spin the marketing suits put on it.



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 Re: R13 Green line
Author: clarnibass 
Date:   2006-02-13 14:08

I've played Greenlines of RC, Festival and Tosca models, and liked the Festival Greenline best. I've never played a R13 Greenline though.

Good luck.

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 Re: R13 Green line
Author: chito 
Date:   2006-02-14 00:05

Clarnibass thanks for the information about the buffet festival green line.

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 Re: R13 Green line
Author: Sean.Perrin 
Date:   2006-02-14 01:44

I am wondering why someone would buy a festival Greenline? Isnt' the wood on a normal festival supposed to be slightly better, and treated differently or something, in addition the having the extra key? The only differene between the greenline and greenline festival to my knowledge would be the extra key? Any thoughts?

Founder and host of the Clarineat Podcast: http://www.clarineat.com

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 Re: R13 Green line
Author: Mark Charette 
Date:   2006-02-14 02:37

Sean.Perrin wrote:

> The only differene between the greenline
> and greenline festival to my knowledge would be the extra key?

Try exprimenting with the search function here. It'll answer your questions or surmises pretty well.

In any case, you're off by quite a few things ...

http://test.woodwind.org/Databases/Klarinet/1998/08/000403.txt

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 Re: R13 Green line
Author: Sean.Perrin 
Date:   2006-02-14 23:15

Ah yes... I'd forgot about the different padding/tone holes etc. Thanks.

Founder and host of the Clarineat Podcast: http://www.clarineat.com

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