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 Re: Selmer 10G -- Which Are the Good Ones
Author: nickma 
Date:   2005-11-20 17:08

Ken

According to the many other posts on this board, (including various ones from me seeking information and giving feedback) excellent 10Gs have been said to be produced from the late X series through Y and into Z.

I have a reasonable amount of experience working with and playing 10Gs and here's my take:

The Y series are amazingly consistent, with a rich projecting tone, and a sweetness that will vary according to the barrel and bell. Initially I thought they were brighter than R13s. Not so. They simply have a bigger sound (comparable with the early R13s from the mid 1950s).

I have overhauled 3 Y series in the last 18 months and they have all been excellent players, with consistent intonation. The quality of the keywork and plating puts all most 1970s Buffets to shame. They are all silver plated.

I have a 4th still to do.

I have kept one and it is my main horn. My back up is a 1956 R13 (Academy Model).

I have had one X series, which was a beauty in terms of sweetness of tone, but less even, with sharp throat B,C,D and rather sharper top D,E,F,G. The keywork was OK, but the fitting of the rods was not as snug as the Ys, which were all really good.

I have overhauled an A series recently, and it was excellent. Beautiful tone, very even, though with slightly less snug rods. Not an issue though. Great plating.

I have also overhauled and sold on 3 C series and a D serie 10G. These are a completely different design, with a half crows foot, an adjuster on the lower joint C pad, cut outs on the lower joint side levels. These later models are a completely different design, and IMHO do not sound nearly as good. They do tend to be reasonably even nonetheless. Even the pillars are different.

Sadly I've never bought a Z series, though I was outbid recently by a Frenchman on ebay for one.

The tuning barrels are hugely variable. Look up previous posts regarding the ebonite insert. Generally I prefer the aftermarket versions without inserts that are all grenadilla. I haven't found one original barrel with ebonite inserts that I actually liked.

Walter Grabner plays an 1 serie 10G, which means he can make you a custom barrel to fit the top joint without a step, and has modelled the bore on a top notch aftermarket Selmer 10G barrel. This upgrade is highly recommended.

Hope this helps (though I'm not sure you were asking for feedback!!)

All the best

Nick

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