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Author: hartt
Date: 2005-07-31 04:13
I need the 'about' tempo markings for this piece.
The movements are:
Allegro maestoso
THEMA Allegro Moderato
Variation Allegro Moderato
Polonaise
thanking you in advance'
dennis
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Author: hartt
Date: 2005-08-01 01:26
Steven Radakovich.....thank you for your email
dennis
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Author: rc_clarinetlady
Date: 2005-08-01 12:58
I've never heard of anyone playing this piece EVER before and this is the first time I've heard it mentioned on this board.
When I was in high school my band director told me that if I could play the Erwinn Fantasy then I would be a clarinet player. I adored this band director and felt as if the gauntlet had been thrown down and the challenge was now ON! I bought it immediately and started to work on it when I had time. I didn't bring it up to my college professor until my sophomore year. He had never heard of it but allowed me to play it any way. I mastered it and performed it for a student recital and summer jury. I made straight A's on it and still really like the piece.
I don't hear about Erwinn much and it's not on our MSHSAA Bandmaster's list of approved solos for contest. Anyone know why? I thought it was a nice solo but I may be bringing sentimental feelings into the mix. Anyone else out there have impressions of this solo?
The title and composer are:
Erwinn Fantasia by G. Meister arr. G. Langenus
published by Carl Fischer 1916
Thanks for your input,
Rebecca
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Author: Susan
Date: 2005-08-01 13:16
I just met this piece a few months ago. Mr. Voxman is rather fond of it; he seems to favor pieces with cadenzas in them, and this has plenty. I enjoyed reading through it - my first impressions were that it would make a nice contest solo, since it has opportunities to show off both technical and expressive abilities. It's a good demonstration of the kinds of things clarinets can do. I think it is within reach of a good high school player, but would probably need to be edited for length at contest. I also think it's the kind of piece that would stand up well to band accompaniment; it would be good if somebody arranged it. (I'm trying to convince my son to do just that!)
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Author: rc_clarinetlady
Date: 2005-08-01 13:44
I thought it sounded like a good contest piece too. It is very showy and technical but a good high school player can do this piece. It does lay well under the fingers. Not a lot of alternate fingerings etc. Just a nice theme and variations with a lot of notes and cadenzas to show off technique and musicality.
I don't know why it's not on our recommended list here in Missouri. How about any other states? I may stand a chance of getting it on the list here if it's already on some of the other state's suggested lists. Anyone?
Rebecca
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Author: Bob Phillips
Date: 2005-08-01 16:42
rc-clarinet,
You got so sobby, you forgot to answer the question! You must know how to count this piece. I'm waiting for your advice, so I can make notes!
thanks
Bob Phillips
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2005-08-01 17:24
Erwinn is my favorite operatic potpourri finger-wiggler. It fits beautifully under the fingers and has a fine combination of lyricism and virtuosity.
The introduction is basically quick, but the frequent cadenzas have to have as much time as you need to make them "speak" -- that is, they have to be shapely, rather than ripped off as fast as possible.
The theme shouldn't be too fast -- maybe 112. It has to dance down the street, with a tap to its feet. Also, the notes get very "black" in the variations. Although you can slow down a little for the fastest parts, each variation should have the theme recognizeable amid the rush of the fast stuff.
Later on, after the three high Es, resolving to the F, the tempo gradually increases to the end. You can take plenty of time on the high F and go fairly slowly -- again, maybe 112 -- but by the end you should be rocket-propelled -- probably 144.
Don't slow down even a tiny bit at the end. The final notes should each be like the crak of a whip. BANG. BANG, snatch the clarinet out of your mouth with a flourish and continue in a single motion into a low bow.
Ken Shaw
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Author: rc_clarinetlady
Date: 2005-08-01 23:04
Mr. Phillips,
I didn't intend to answer the original question as I felt I might be redundant with my remarks. It appeared Steven R. had answered hartt in an email and he was quite satisfied with his answer. Sorry to be sobby. My band director was killed in a car accident. I also like the solo and wish it were on our state approved list. You don't hear about it here on this board much and I wanted some input. Since you asked, here is the way I played the piece.
I agree for the most part with all of the tempo markings from Ken but would add that at the Andante cantabile the tempo should be at about 66. Take the liberties needed to make it very expressive. I would also add that at the meno messo markings I slowed down a bit as there are more notes in those sections and you want them to all "speak". I probably didn't play the Polonaise at 112. I understood it to be slightly slower than the first variation so I started it at about 104. Yes, the ending flies but I played it more animated than just as fast as I could possibly play it. It's marked Molto animato so I took it at it's marking and played with it a bit. I started a little slower after the 2 trills and kind of teased the audience for a bar or two gradually increasing speed and then let it fly at the very end.....ending the piece at about 120. I have no idea how you can do this at 144 with the articulation given. I can't and still make music. And yes......the dramatic bow is an absolute must on this piece. Great suggestion, Ken.
Have fun with this. The audience will love it if you do.
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