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Author: Clarinetgirl06
Date: 2005-05-16 21:41
This is supposed to be a fun topic and this is just out of my own personal curiousity.
I currently am obsessed with Weber's Fantasia and Rondo. The Fantasia is so beautiful yet somewhat haunting at times and the Rondo is just so energetic! Does anyone know the level of these pieces by the way?
I also like Gaubert Fantasie and Crusell Concerto no. 2 in F minor. I love the theme of the Gaubert and the Crusell is just awesome all around!
Oops... how could I forget the Poulenc Sonata? A great modern piece!
Hope to hear what you have to say!
Post Edited (2005-05-19 21:59)
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Author: GBK
Date: 2005-05-16 21:58
Clarinetgirl06 wrote:
> I currently am obsessed with Weber's Fantasia and Rondo. The
> Fantasia is so beautiful yet somewhat haunting at times and the
> Rondo is just so energetic! Does anyone know the level of these
> pieces by the way?
Weber never wrote a piece called "Fantasia and Rondo".
The piece you are referring to is a truncated piano/clarinet version of the Opus 34 Quintet...GBK
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Author: Clarinetgirl06
Date: 2005-05-16 22:29
Yeah, I know. I have the whole Quintet on CD and I like the string version better. Let me change it to:
I love the Fantasia and Rondo movements from the Clarinet Quintet Opus 34 by Weber.
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Author: Morrigan
Date: 2005-05-16 22:34
Weber's 2nd Concerto in Eb.
I'm actually almost sick of it.
I've already done it this year for two competitions, which got me nowhere, and I've got 2 more to go over the next 3 weeks. After that, I'm not touching it again until my end of year recital!
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Author: clarinets1
Date: 2005-05-16 22:48
on clarinet: Neil Spohr concerto NO. 1
Messager Solo de Concours
Immer Kleiner by that German dude
and on alto saxophone: Jacques Ibert's Concertino de Camera
these, along with the Reed 2 book on "Sugar", have been my latest musical aspirations/obsessions.
~~JK
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Author: GBK
Date: 2005-05-16 23:22
clarinets1 wrote:
> on clarinet: Neil Spohr concerto NO. 1
Neil Spohr ??
Is he a long lost relative of Ludwig (Louis) Spohr? ![[wink]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smilie3.gif) ...GBK
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Author: bflatclarinetist
Date: 2005-05-16 23:26
I'm obessed with the Waltz of the flowers from the Nutcracker Suite! And also, but not really anymore was the 4th movement of the Paul Hindemith Clarinet Concerto.
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Author: clarinets1
Date: 2005-05-16 23:49
Ludwig, eh? that must be what I meant. I call it Neil Spohr even while looking at the title page of the cursed piece. Who is this Neil Spohr that keeps confusing me? where, oh where, did I pick that up?
ah well, you know what I meant....i think.
~~JK
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Author: claclaws
Date: 2005-05-17 00:07
(Order: from the most recent to the least)
Weber, Grand Duo Concertante 3rd mov. (first page)
Weber, Intro. theme and var. op.posthum.
Mozart, no. 622
Krommer, no. 36
Lucy Lee Jang
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Author: EEBaum
Date: 2005-05-17 00:20
Just finished being obsessed with John Adams' Gnarly Buttons.
Am now trying to find a new obsession, though I'm going on hiatus for at least a month, perhaps the whole summer, to let my hands recover :(
-Alex
www.mostlydifferent.com
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Author: Tim2
Date: 2005-05-17 00:43
The Sonatina by Miklos Rozsa. A real piece of drama and for the right person, a chance to show off finger technique and the musical line.
As for my ol' buddy, Neil Spohr, there is an antiseptic for cuts called Neosporen.... The spore continues to proliferate however it can! Thanks for the chuckle.
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Author: Tom A
Date: 2005-05-17 01:59
Lied by Berio. I like a lot of music in modern idioms, but I struggle to get every nuance in this myself.
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Author: mkybrain
Date: 2005-05-17 02:13
I feel the exact same way about weber no. 2 morrigan.
Right now I am slightly obsesed with Mueava Los Heusos, by Gordon Goodwin.
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Author: hartt
Date: 2005-05-17 02:13
scales, scales, scales
3rd's, 3rd's, 3rd's
4th's, 4th's, 4th's
6th's, 6th's, 6th's
octaves, octaves, octaves
12th's, 12th's, 12th's
.........all in the manner of Russianoff's Bk 1 and 2
now go practice
regards
dennis
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Author: woodwind650
Date: 2005-05-17 02:20
histoire du tango for violin guitar -Piazzola
one of the greatest pieces ever!!!!
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Author: ohsuzan
Date: 2005-05-17 02:28
Does oboe music count?
Currently enthralled with "Serenade" by Cor de Groot, a duo in four movements for oboe and bassoon, 1949.
Fun to play, fun to hear, modern, intelligent, well-written, timeless, stand-up-and-cheer music. Just one of the most charming pieces of music I have encountered ever, anywhere.
Susan
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Author: BlockEyeDan
Date: 2005-05-17 02:33
Artie Shaw's Concerto for Clarinet Part 1 and 2
I needed a workout.....and this piece delivers!
Dan
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Author: senator1214
Date: 2005-05-17 02:42
I would say that I am obsessed with Don Juan, but then I would feel guilty because I also love Don Quixiote, but wait there is also Tod und Verklarung. I think I am just plain obsessed with Richard Strauss.
Hello I'm Keith, and I'm a Straussaholic. Somebody help Me..
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Author: Merlin
Date: 2005-05-17 02:53
Brahms Sonata No. 1 in F Minor.
Problem is, I'd rather play it on something other than clarinet.
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Author: SueSmith
Date: 2005-05-17 03:11
Baermann 3 - Complete workout for the clarinet...does that count?
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Author: Rachel
Date: 2005-05-17 03:38
Both the Brahms sonatas, the Mozart concerto, the Nielsen concerto and Spohr's 4th concerto. I'm playing all of these except the Spohr, and I plan to order that as soon as possible so I can play it.
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Author: clarnibass
Date: 2005-05-17 04:56
"Does oboe music count?"
Oboe music? An oximoron?
OK seriously, there isn't exactly a piece I'm obsessed with, but I am kind of obsessed with Louis Sclavis. I bought about 10 CDs by him in the last year.
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Author: Aussiegirl
Date: 2005-05-17 05:50
Right now? All ive got on my mind is the 2nd of the Uhl studies, as its the one im doing for my scarily looming exam...that and some more cavallini studies! Studies and scales.
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Author: ned
Date: 2005-05-17 09:56
I wouldn't say I'm obsessed - I tend not to get this way inclined............however............. I REALLY LIKE a piece called ''A Star Falls From Heaven"" aka ""A Star Fell From Heaven"". It's very pretty and fairly simple to boot.......a nice little waltz from Germany(I think)...........the artist, Joseph Schmidt, was persecuted by the Nazis in WW2. I first heard it at about age seven, when my father played his old 78rpm acetate copy one time, long ago.
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Author: RAMman
Date: 2005-05-17 10:21
FINAL RECITAL at college, arghhhhh!
Weber, Grand Duo
Paul Patterson, Conversations
Romero/Donizetti, Fantasia on Themes from Lucrecia Borgia
Yikes.
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Author: msloss
Date: 2005-05-17 11:57
Nils Bohr was the grandaddy of the physics of atomic structures. Music of the universe, maybe, but pretty sure he didn't contribute much to the canon of clarinet music.
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Author: John Morton
Date: 2005-05-17 15:49
The Jelly Roll Morton trios with piano, clarinet and snare. This is a wonderful trio instrumentation with full exposure for all three instruments. A good one is Wolverine Blues with Johnny Dodds, clarinet and Baby Dodds, drums. The clarinet and drums only appear halfway through the piece, sending the tune to another level.
John Morton
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Author: clarinets1
Date: 2005-05-17 16:41
perhaps I am confusing the Nielson concerto with the Spohr concerto...get it? Niel-Spohr. my brain does funny things like that sometimes....or I'm just an absent-minded idiot.
~JK
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Author: D Dow
Date: 2005-05-17 19:35
Firebird Suite of Stravinsky in all of it's incarnations.
David Dow
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Author: ned
Date: 2005-05-17 22:28
""The Jelly Roll Morton trios with piano, clarinet and snare. This is a wonderful trio instrumentation with full exposure for all three instruments. A good one is Wolverine Blues with Johnny Dodds, clarinet and Baby Dodds, drums. The clarinet and drums only appear halfway through the piece, sending the tune to another level.""
John Morton
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I second this, it is a great piece, another of which I have listened to from an early age.
Hey John.............you wouldn't be biased though would you? After all.........it's your grandfather playing the piano on this one.
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Author: rc_clarinetlady
Date: 2005-05-17 22:52
I just ordered a whole bunch of music.
I had a professor in college that had me play the more contemporary works. I now wish I'd have played some more of the really great classics I hear about here on the BB so I've started working my way through them.
The only Weber I ever played was the Concertino so I am currently working on Weber's:
Grand Duo Concertant
Concerto No. 1 in F minor
Concerto No. 2 in Eb major
and the Fantasia and Rondo
When I finish these I have the Brahms I'm going to tackle.
I've looked for this Nielson Concerto I hear about on this board and I don't see it on JW Pepper's site. Where do I go to find it?
Rebecca
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Author: John Morton
Date: 2005-05-17 23:31
>> The Jelly Roll Morton trios ...
>>
> I second this, it is a great piece, another of which I have listened to from an > early age.
>
> Hey John.............you wouldn't be biased though would you? After
> all.........it's your grandfather playing the piano on this one.
Yeah, maybe there was something mom and dad never told me. I would be proud to be related to that guy, he was truly a master and knew just what to do with his clarinet players. Incidentally there is a fine box set (5 Cds) of Jelly Roll on JSP, selling for around $25 US.
John Morton
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Author: Ralph G
Date: 2005-05-18 04:25
Weber's (or is it Kuffner's?) Introduction, Theme and Variations. That Variation 5 is a toughie.
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Author: Igloo Bob
Date: 2005-05-18 04:32
Aconcagua/Concerto for Bandoneon by Astor Piazolla, arranged for clarinet, cello, piano trio by Pablo Zinger. I've been playing it on bass clarinet, seems to be working well enough.
Also liking Haitian Fight Song by Mingus, for our high school big band. So repetitive, but it hasn't gotten old yet, and it's a solid crowd pleaser.
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Author: chito
Date: 2005-05-18 05:12
Rudolph Austria sonata for clar. in A
Stolzman collection Aria and jazz album
Horovitz sonatina for clar.and piano
Gabaye sonate for clar.and piano
Damase sonata for clar.and harp
Niels Gade fantasy piece
Malcom Arnold sonatina
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Author: mankan
Date: 2005-05-18 07:07
Crusell: "Introduction, theme and variations".
It's fun, not to difficult - and it's swedish ..."
Schumann: "Fantasistück" and Debussy: "Petite piece" are also favorites at my level.
mankan
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Author: music_is_life
Date: 2005-05-18 20:15
Quote:
I wouldn't say I'm obsessed - I tend not to get this way inclined............however............. I REALLY LIKE a piece called ''A Star Falls From Heaven"" aka ""A Star Fell From Heaven"". It's very pretty and fairly simple to boot.......a nice little waltz from Germany(I think)...........the artist, Joseph Schmidt, was persecuted by the Nazis in WW2. I first heard it at about age seven, when my father played his old 78rpm acetate copy one time, long ago.
I like that piece. I never knew any history behind it however.
-Lindsie
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Author: rc_clarinetlady
Date: 2005-05-19 05:11
Thanks, GBK.........I found it.
I'll order it but it takes awhile to get it in so I won't be playing it for awhile yet.
Anyway,
thanks again,
Rebecca
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Author: wvu_cnet21
Date: 2005-05-19 21:10
Poulenc, Sonata
Tower, Wings
Brahms, Sonata #2 in Eb
Babin, Hillandale Waltzes
Gaubert, Fantasie
Musczinski, Time Pieces
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Author: ned
Date: 2005-05-19 23:09
""Improvising over blues changes in any key""
Yeah good one.................but I wouldn't get much joy from Concert B.
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Author: diz
Date: 2005-05-20 02:10
mankan said:
Crusell: "Introduction, theme and variations".
It's fun, not to difficult - and it's swedish ..."
Boy - when I learned about this wonderful composer I was informed he was born in Finland ... then lived most of his life in Stockholm.
GBK??
Without music, the world would be grey, very grey.
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2005-05-20 02:18
diz wrote:
> Boy - when I learned about this wonderful composer I was
> informed he was born in Finland ... then lived most of his life
> in Stockholm.
The Finns do claim him:
"The most important Finnish composer of the Classical period — and, indeed, the outstanding Finnish composer up to Sibelius — was Bernhard Henrik Crusell (1775–1838). " - The Finnish Music Information Centre
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Author: mankan
Date: 2005-05-20 07:37
OK lets get this straight...
Bernhard Henrik Crusell (1775-1838), was born in Nystad, Finland, but he lived in Stockholm, Sweden, from 1791 onwards and performed his life’s work in Sweden. He made his last visit to his home country in summer 1801, when he performed in Turku and Helsinki.
Above this, Finland was a part of Sweden until the swedish-russian war 1808-1809.
According to all this I think its natural to claime that Crusells work was swedish. In other way you could even say that Irving Berlins music was russian ...
But of course, the finns may have other ideas about this.
(The traditional identification of Crusell is "Swedish-Finnish clarinetist, composer and translator")
mankan
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Author: Steve Epstein
Date: 2005-05-22 00:38
John Kelly - Australia wrote:
> ""Improvising over blues changes in any key""
>
> Yeah good one.................but I wouldn't get much joy from
> Concert B.
Well, I improvised over electric blues (guitars, bass, vocals) the other day in concert B -- on my alto sax.
Let's see...that's G#; well, Ab actually. Wasn't really hard, once I got the hang of what and what not to play.
Steve Epstein
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Author: ned
Date: 2005-05-22 09:39
""Let's see...that's G#; well, Ab actually. Wasn't really hard, once I got the hang of what and what not to play.""
Well done, Steve - I guess playing is your ''day'' job - I don't do all that much playing these days (audiences are diminishing) but I stick to C, Eb, F, Ab, Bb and occasionally G (classical players can work out their keys for themselves).
jk
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Author: Steve Epstein
Date: 2005-05-22 16:00
John Kelly - Australia wrote:
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> Well done, Steve - I guess playing is your ''day'' job - I
> don't do all that much playing these days (audiences are
> diminishing) but I stick to C, Eb, F, Ab, Bb and occasionally G
> (classical players can work out their keys for themselves).
>
> jk
Hardly my day job, but thanks for the complement.
Steve Epstein
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Author: Sonny
Date: 2005-05-23 02:33
Re: Where could I get a copy of the Jelly Roll Morton Trio(s)?. I've searched with no results.
practice,practice,practice
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Author: ned
Date: 2005-05-23 11:35
""Re: Where could I get a copy of the Jelly Roll Morton Trio(s)?. I've searched with no results.""
Try: redhotjazz.com
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Author: noahbob
Date: 2005-05-24 23:26
I realy love Webber clarinet conerto no. 1 in F minor. Especialy the rondo. It is a gorgeous clarinet concerto.
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Author: Meri
Date: 2005-05-25 19:56
Mendelssohn Sonata in Eb major! Had actually been looking for a copy of this piece to borrow, finally found it a week and a half ago, read through it with my pianist (with neither of us never having even looked at let alone practiced before), we stopped maybe 3 times max to regroup, both of us ended up loving the piece that we are putting it on our "performance" list.
Meri
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Author: GBK
Date: 2005-05-25 20:11
Meri wrote:
> Mendelssohn Sonata in Eb major!
I don't feel the same way.
The Mendelssohn Sonata may not be the worst piece written for clarinet, but it definitely is my top 5.
As it didn't leave a lasting impression with the public, that may have much to do with the reason it was never published during Mendelssohn's lifetime.
Funny thing....no one seemed to miss it.
It's strictly a teenage work of some historical interest, but with little substantial musical value.
I let my Junior High kids play it, but only as a curiosity to show the work of a composer who was their age when he wrote it...GBK
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Author: GoatTnder
Date: 2005-05-27 20:28
I'm currently really into the Phantasy Suite by Thomas Dunhill. Short, sweet, to the point, and more fun than you can shake a stick at.
Also, I'm shopping for a piece to become seriously obsessed with for a while. Maybe the Bernstein. Maybe a Weber. Mabye a Spohr. I'm not sure...
Andres Cabrera
South Bay Wind Ensemble
sbwe@sbmusic.org
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Author: ClarinetConnoisseur
Date: 2005-05-27 20:29
I'm currently obsessed with many concertos. Here are some of them:
B Flat Clarinet:
*Konzert fur Klarinette und Orchester in Sib (Clarinet Principale) by Hoffmeister (it's said that Mozart copied a lot of themes in his K. 622)
*Adagio and Tarantella by Cavallini
*Introduction, Theme, and Variations by Rossini
*Weber's Concertino Op. 26
A Clarinet:
*Mozart's Clarinet Concerto (I love that song!)
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Author: GBK
Date: 2005-05-27 21:04
ClarinetConnoisseur wrote:
> A Clarinet:
> *Mozart's Clarinet Concerto (I love that song!)
What are the words to that song? I'd love to sing along
Song: (sông, 'so[ng]) - a short musical composition with words.
...GBK
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Author: ClarinetConnoisseur
Date: 2005-05-28 03:47
Oops! Everyone says I need to think before I speak. I probably do. I guess Mozart's Concerto can have words.... I made up words to the Hoffmeister Concerto after hearing it repeatedly for a year. ("I'm here now to play this concerto for you. It is quite an honor!" Stupid, but done out of boredom..) Let's see...I'll have to think a while for words to the Mozart "Song" ..............
I really like the clarinet.
Play it, love it all of the time.
That's as far as I've gotten so far. I guess the first few meausres can be a song....
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Author: Clarinetgirl06
Date: 2005-05-28 05:10
I take back what I said earlier. I don't like the Fantasia and Rondo- I LOVE THE WHOLE DARN QUINTET!!!!!!!!! Is there a word beyond obsessed? Crazed perhaps? I love the Weber Clarinet Quintet! Just bought the music-challenging but awesome!!!!!!!!
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