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Author: jmsa
Date: 2005-04-08 03:22
I just noticed today that someone claims to be selling Artie Shaws clarinets on E-bay and will supply a certificate of authenticity. Does anyone have any comments on the validity of these instruments?
jmsa
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Author: bill28099
Date: 2005-04-08 03:45
Kind of cool clarinets, likely worth about $300/400 each. It will be interesting to see what Artie's slobber is worth. I'll bet the reserve is never reached.
A great teacher gives you answers to questions
you don't even know you should ask.
Post Edited (2005-04-08 03:55)
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Author: clarnibass
Date: 2005-04-08 04:48
They might be worth that to a clarinetist, but a collector might pay thousands (if not tens of thousands) for them.
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Author: GBK
Date: 2005-04-08 12:18
I've got the swab that Anton Stadler used in 1791, when he performed K.622.
I'll even write you a "Certificate of Authenticity" ...GBK ![[wink]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smilie3.gif)
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Author: Bill
Date: 2005-04-08 14:22
Gosh, if Shaw donated two clarinets to the Smithsonian, and these three clarinets on eBay are actually his as well, he must have owned several!
Imagine that!
Bill.
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Author: Don Poulsen
Date: 2005-04-08 15:39
[ No eBay links of current auctions - GBK ]
What reason do we have to doubt the authenticity? Yes, it is good to be skeptical and research the clarinets before jumping in. If interested, I'd start asking the seller (who has a 484 positive rating) questions, such as if he could provide a picture of the certificates of authenticity, how he came about them, etc. Who is the seller? Someone who might be directly connected to the estate? Are they willing to provide some evidence of this as well?
Bottom line is, I'll assume they're authentic, but wouldn't bid on them until my beliefs are verified.
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Author: Don Poulsen
Date: 2005-04-09 00:29
GBK--
You also deleted my comment that the seller is also selling two Artie Shaw saxes and has a rating of 484.
Sorry about the eBay link; I was unaware.
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Author: clarinet87
Date: 2005-04-09 01:09
GBK--
I still don't believe that that swab used to belong to Anton Stadler. That means that it is 214 years old! Something that old would have fallen apart and deteriorated by now. How do I know that's really Anton's swab and not just some random picture of a swab? And if it really did belong to Anton, how much do you think it's worth?
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Author: Synonymous Botch
Date: 2005-04-09 12:01
Why would we doubt the veracity of our esteemed colleague, and accept (without vetting, which is like petting without the cleanup) the position of a complete stranger?
"Experts must come from outside your immediate family, from at least 100 miles away - preferably with an unpronounceable surname from Western Europe." Sir Wolfram von Finzi, second earl of Heywood Jabuzzof
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Author: Rick Williams
Date: 2005-04-09 12:20
The peole doing the selling are a licensed auction house (I Checked) and estate sales firm. They are selling off the Shaw estate this weekend on behalf of the Artie Shaw Foundation including hand written sheet music, art collection, personal items.
Auction started Friday and goes through tomorrow. The auction is at Shaw's home.
Best
RW
Best
Rick
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Author: Dano
Date: 2005-04-09 15:26
I think that most musical instruments that belonged to dead artists usually go to collectors that can hardly play them. They buy them for the investment. There are alot of people that can't figure out what to do with the few bucks they have. After all, it is still just a clarinet. Certificate or no certificate. What would you do with Arties clarinet? Play it regularly?
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Author: bill28099
Date: 2005-04-18 06:57
Well Artie's Buffet went for $32,000 and looking at the bidding that must have been the reserve price. The two Selmers did not meet their reserves which exceeded $5355. His sax and piano are now up for sale by the same vendor.
A great teacher gives you answers to questions
you don't even know you should ask.
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Author: BobD
Date: 2005-04-18 14:10
So....I forget.....did Artie have children?
Bob Draznik
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Author: bflatclarinetist
Date: 2005-04-21 01:50
Eww, why would you want someone's old saliva on a piece of fabrice attached with a string and a piece of metal
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Author: kal
Date: 2005-04-21 04:57
Eww, why would you want someone's old saliva on a piece of fabrice attached with a string and a piece of metal
Obviously for cloning purposes.
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Author: ken
Date: 2005-04-24 12:57
I saw one of Artie's old clarinets hanging on the wall at my local T.G.I.F. restaurant --- probably explains the 30 cent jump on the menu for the fried broccoli cheese balls. ![[right]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smilie8.gif) v/r Ken
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