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 French vs German vs American bores
Author: DTH 
Date:   2004-05-16 03:11

Can someone explain to me the difference between French, German and American bore Bb clarinets? There is some info available online but I have not found a direct comparison between all three types.

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 Re: French vs German vs American bores
Author: kenbear 
Date:   2004-05-18 23:54

Look on the Stephen Fox website, there's an article which discusses the difference between French abnd German bores.

The most obvious difference between the two is the amount of flare in the lower joint. In german style instruments the lower joint bore is more cylindrical for a greater part of its length than the French, which tends to make the german instruments feel more resistant.

The "American Bore" is really a particular French bore (epitomised by the Buffet R13) which is most popular in the US.

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 Re: French vs German vs American bores
Author: kenbear 
Date:   2004-05-19 00:51

Bravo Bellflare!!!!

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 Re: French vs German vs American bores
Author: Synonymous Botch 
Date:   2004-05-19 01:07

The German bore considers anything with alternate keys to be degenerate.

The American bore considers gear to be more important than practice time.

The French bore considers the other two to be mere poseurs...

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 Re: French vs German vs American bores
Author: David Spiegelthal 2017
Date:   2004-05-19 15:09

The German boar snorts with a guttural growl.

The American boar thinks he's the biggest, baddest pig on the planet.

The French boar likes truffles and can find them with his nose.

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 Re: French vs German vs American bores
Author: mw 
Date:   2004-05-19 17:20

DTH, you may wish to take a look at the ROSSI Clarinet Website (ex: Rossi speaks to "pre-war 1010's" there) . And, perhaps a search through the Clarinet Archives could/would provide some details on bore size/dimension & design. Good luck.

http://www.rossiclarinet.cl/

Also :

http://www.eatonclarinets.freeserve.co.uk/

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 Re: French vs German vs American bores
Author: DTH 
Date:   2004-05-20 00:01

Thanks for the info. I guess what I am trying to find out is if there are so many variations on bore configurations, shouldn't there be a chart or some guideline available so you can make a direct comparison between all types of bores and their sound (generally speaking). Maybe that way if you are looking for a good horn to play chamber music or jazz or whatever then at least you have a good starting point.

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 Re: French vs German vs American bores
Author: Bellflare 
Date:   2004-05-20 00:43

I appreciate the Bravos.
Lets' just say that the deletion of my post was due to my ... ahem, indiscretion .. .. based on common (mis?)perceptions that should not affect acoustic properties. mea culpa....twelve Hail Klocs, thirteen Hail Huberts, and one Jolly Good Eaton.

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 Re: French vs German vs American bores
Author: msloss 
Date:   2004-05-20 14:33

Well, according to David Dow, the American is much more boring than the others.

: - )

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 Re: French vs German vs American bores
Author: mw 
Date:   2004-05-20 22:02

DTH, I don't know that if that type of chart is available - I don't think so. I'm afraid that it would be too subjective as to style.

In any event, it doesn't appear you'll find that info here as the other respondents here are just to cool to help out.



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