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Author: D Dow
Date: 2003-06-25 17:40
I realize this may seem like a strange title but I just wanted to ask how many out there hear the difference between the Vienna Phil sound as an orchestra in relation to the Chicago Symphony....here is the differences I have found...
1 Vienna Oboes are most nasal and use a bit more vibrato. They are slightly bright as well.
2/ Vienna French horns are definitely different in tonal colour.
3. the Viennesse clarinets have a different ring on the sound....
4. The trumpets are rotary valve and sound quite different from the Chicage counterpart.
5. The timpani use animal skins and sound different.
As to other aspects I am not sure, but these are things that I hear as being quite different. The object of the exercise is not which is better but how many people can hear and note the tonal differences.....
Sincerely,
this is not a comparison of ability or skill!!!!
David Dow
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Author: vin
Date: 2003-06-25 17:59
i agree with all your above, though I have not seen vienna live, except on the new year's eve broadcasts. one of the other differences that is merely visual is that the string players in vienna move a lot more while they play. i will be very interested to hear something like a beethoven symphony with seiji ozawa and vienna. an intriguing marriage to say the least...
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Author: Brandon
Date: 2003-06-25 22:00
To me, it is usually easy to be able to tell the difference between American strings and European stings. This is certainly true between an orchestra as distinguishable as Vienna.
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Author: diz
Date: 2003-06-25 22:17
In my book there is no choice ... the Vienna orchestra wins every time. I much prefer their oboe and horn sound, I think their strings (especially 'celli and basses) have a beautiful, rich sound. You asked.
And as to comparing their skill - I'd say they are pretty evenly matched ... both are world-class virtuoso ensembles.
It's a tricky one as no one is "right or wrong" with their answer to this.
Without music, the world would be grey, very grey.
Post Edited (2003-06-25 22:20)
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Author: William
Date: 2003-06-26 14:45
Of course, there is a different "sound" with different ensembles that most of us can hear (unless our ears were galvanized at birth). But how lucky we are for that. Wouldn't it be musically dreadful if everyone sounded and played the same?? (boring)
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Author: Wes
Date: 2003-06-27 06:10
American oboists often use a long scrape reed with a complex profile while the Europeans, British, and Japanese use various short scrape reeds. Thus, there are still national identities for oboe sounds. Compare Heinz Holliger's bright sound with Ray Still's sound, for example. Both are great, artistic players but with completely different sounds.
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