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Author: krawfish3x
Date: 2003-05-08 21:17
i have the program and i need to type up a score of music. i have a week to do this so the faster you respond the more it will be appriciated. the trouble im having is that i dont know how to change the time and key signature in the middle of a song. what i mean is, say u have the first four measures in C major and 4/4, but you want the next four measures in Bb major in 6/8. how do i do this?
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Author: EEBaum
Date: 2003-05-08 22:04
Click the time signature tool. Click the measure you want to change. Now either double-click on the menu or use the pulldown menu at the top of the screen.
-Alex
www.mostlydifferent.com
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Author: diz
Date: 2003-05-08 22:10
Why don't you spend one hour going through the video tutorial that comes with Finale (since Finale 2000). It's very good and will give you what you need: the basics.
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Author: ALOMARvelous12
Date: 2003-05-08 22:18
While we're at it, does anyone know whether or not its possible to hear the tempo changes take effect when listening to an MIDI produced by Finale 2002?
While you're editting, you can hear the tempo changes you put in there when listening to playback. However if you save it as a MIDI and play the MIDI file, you can't hear it.
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Author: diz
Date: 2003-05-08 22:27
Of course - MIDI picks up every aspect of any musical file - including dynamics, tempo et cetera. I think using Finale to generate MIDI files for playback is a bit iffy - it's an (excellent) notation package primarily with MIDI output features.
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Author: Ed
Date: 2003-05-08 23:52
Finale also has a great manual. Go to the help and look in the index.
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Author: Phat Cat
Date: 2003-05-09 00:18
A Mini MIDI missive:
To be precise, the MIDI protocol doesn't know about tempo or dynamics. There are MIDI codes for note-on and note-off events. The sequencer recording software interprets real time note-on and note-off events within the context of a beat during the recording process. It does this by time-stamping the note events relative to the metronome beat. Music editing software creates the same type of data stream corresponding to the notes you score.
The sequencer playback program converts the time-stamped data stream into actual note-on and note-off events and sends each to the MIDI instrument(s) at the correct instant. Meanwhile each note-on event has an associated level that corresponds to loudness.
So, tempo and dynamics are musical concepts that are imposed on time stamped MIDI note-on and note-off events by some software program. In answer to the second question of this post, it could be that the Finale program is correctly making the time-value adjustments corresponding to the tempo change during edit playback, but these adjustments are not being applied to the data saved to the MIDI file. This could be a bug in the software, or it could be a "feature", in that you aren't properly using it.
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Author: EEBaum
Date: 2003-05-09 17:51
Hmm, Phat_Cat, I thought midi had a concept of tempo and based the note on/off events on that.
ALOMAR: I have PrintMusic2002 (Finale's budget version) and have also had trouble with tempo changes. The system is very cumbersome and quirky, unless I've missed some easier way to do it.
-Alex
www.mostlydifferent.com
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Author: Avie
Date: 2003-05-09 23:12
Good luck Krawfish but at this rate im afraid you are not going to make the deadline. I dont know about you but now im really confused!
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Author: Phat Cat
Date: 2003-05-10 00:50
More on MIDI:
Now days folks use MIDI pretty loosely to refer to any aspect of non-sampled digital music, but the MIDI spec is quite narrow. In fact, much of what people ascribe to MIDI is actually software running above MIDI data.
MIDI is a real-time protocol that has a concept of time. Each event in a MIDI file (e.g., note-on or note-off) has an associated time stamp whose value measures clock ticks. This time stamp is a delta value representing the elapsed time since the preceding event. So, for example, if two events are simultaneous the delta will be 0.
In order to introduce the concept of tempo in recording, the sequencing recorder references the event time stamps to a specified "metronome" beat. This (arbitrary) metronome beat connects time to tempo and is a construct of the sequencer.
On playback, the sequencer massages "delta time" by interpreting the length of the clock tick. If the clock tick is the same as during recording or scoring, the note events happen at the original rate. Shortening the tick means events happen faster; lengthening the tick means greater delays between events. Hence tempo.
The underlying MIDI file is blissfully unaware of all this and any tempo screw-ups are in the software, the user or the performer.
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