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Author: jez
Date: 2003-03-28 12:46
After a long wait (they don't normally bring them into the UK) my pair of Oehler system clarinets has arrived from Yamaha.
They look & sound beautiful, but I'll have to wait to see how I cope with intonation etc. in the orchestra.
Wish me luck!
jez
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Author: Alphie
Date: 2003-03-28 18:55
jez, what are your plans with your oehler instruments? Are you going to use them in the orchestra and do the others change too for certain repertoire?
Yamaha, how much did you pay for the pair?
I have an old Oscar Oehler Bb that I use occationally for chamber music. I never dared to suggest to my colleagues to use it in the orchestra though. However, we have been discussing to get sets of German system instruments for German repertoire to be fair to the trumpets who always use German trumpets.
Personally I like this devellopment if it proceeds.
Alphie
Post Edited (2003-03-28 19:56)
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Author: jez
Date: 2003-03-28 22:46
Alphie,
The 1st. clar. already has a pair (Wurlitzer) and we're planning to use them, as you suggest, in the repertoire where our trumpets already use rotary valves, Beethoven Brahms, Bruckner etc. Apart from any authentic value it'll make the idea of playing some, perhaps, over-familiar pieces more interesting.
The Yamaha looks so similar to the Wurlitzer that I am tempted to think they've copied the design. I'm not sure of the price as the orchestra is paying.
jez
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Author: David Peacham
Date: 2003-03-28 23:30
Why do your trumpeters use rotary valves for Beethoven? Rotary valves were invented the year after Beethoven died. Valves in his lifetime were pistons, albeit a different design from the modern piston valve.
Of course, for any music written before 1815, they shouldn't use valves at all......
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If there are so many people on this board unwilling or unable to have a civil and balanced discussion about important issues, then I shan't bother to post here any more.
To the great relief of many of you, no doubt.
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Author: Clare
Date: 2003-03-29 08:01
How exciting - good luck with them.
And are you doing any concerts in London over the next few months so I can come and look at/listen to them in action?
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Author: Alphie
Date: 2003-03-29 10:00
David, the point is not rotary valves or pistons, but the dimentions of the German trumpets that are closer to the nats. They have a volume that suit the older repertoire better together with less strings than the modern American style brass instruments that tend to be too loud and out of balance with the rest of the orchestra. Also it's not only a matter of volume but the possibillity to have the trumpets sound "brassy" in fortes without being too loud. This effect is almost impossible on modern piston trumpets.
Alphie
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