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Author: ctt489
Date: 2003-03-21 05:32
If this is true "In most cases a barrel with a reverse cone taper like the CLARK W FOBES barrel will produce the best results for intonation and response."
What is recommended on the Chadash or Pyne line?
I don't want a stuffy sound. I'm currently using the barrels that came with my R13's (Bb & A) but I've i used in the past 'Deg-Accubore M65' the ribbed models. I stopped using it in college because it wasn't the norm and I felt uncomfortable about it but my teacher in highschool said I played better with it.
Current Setup:
Buffet R13 Bb & A
Vandoren B45
Vandoren V12 3 - 3-1/2
Vandoren Optimum
Any imput or help ....thanks.
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Author: ctt489
Date: 2003-03-21 05:37
Building on that idea how about Moennig's?
and more quotes: "For several reasons, most players in the U.S. have come to prefer larger bore mouthpieces similar to the design of Frank Kaspar. This larger bore mouthpiece coupled with the non-tapered barrel creates two problems of intonation. The third mode is too sharp and the throat tones are flat. Welcome Hans Moennig and the reverse cone tapered barrel. Reverse cone barrels are larger at the mouthpiece end. Moennig barrels as made by Buffet are .589"-.590" at the mouthpiece end and reduce to about .579" at the opposite end." "The rather severe reduction in the barrel bore has several positive affects. The third mode is not as sharp and the twelfths near the mouthpiece are reduced in size. The throat tones are sharper and brought into better focus. The choke created by the step at the juncture of mouthpiece and barrel can add a nice resistance that increases response and adds center to the tone."
from http://www.clarkwfobes.com/Tuning%20article/Tuning%20the%20Clarinet%20for%20PS.htm
I haven't heard many using clarkwfobes barrels, but the article is interesting and helpful.
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Author: Wes
Date: 2003-03-21 05:40
On my R13, I find that the Moennig barrel helps lower the pitch of the B3 and C3 of the second register which tend to want to be a little sharp with the original Buffet barrel. It also sounds great over the whole instrument and the throat Bb is wonderful. Good luck!
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Author: ctt489
Date: 2003-03-21 05:47
What length mm of Moennig? Also so many barrels out there by other makers with M on them (ie Bay, Buffet, Chadash, DegAccbore, Eddie Daniels, Pyne, ClarkWFobes).
I'm still confussed. Is it worth all this trouble of looking into or is it such a miniscule difference by changing the barrel?
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Author: sfalexi
Date: 2003-03-21 05:54
Don't forget gigliotti barrels. I think the barrel may make a difference. People wouldn't buy an aftermarket barrel if it didn't make a positive difference. I myself wonder about the different types. Would it be safe to say that a barrel would be bext suited for a mouthpiece of the same maker (ie Fobes mp with a fobes barrel, pyne with pyne, etc.) or is that completely irrelevant?
ctt:I think standard length barrel is 66 mm. You probably wouldn't want to change lenght unless most of your clarinet plays sharp or flat. That's my assumption.
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Author: ctt489
Date: 2003-03-21 06:03
I thought 65mm was standard Buffet and the American 'prefered' is referse cone taper either moennig or chadash.
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Author: Wes
Date: 2003-03-21 15:45
The Moennig barrel I use is 67mm long but you would have to pick one to fit your clarinet. The Chadash barrel will probably help your clarinet also. It is my preference to try to use a Buffet-based barrel on the R13 such as the Moennig or Chadash if possible rather than some of the many plastic or metal types. Recently, I overhauled an old Tribert intermediate level clarinet and found that the bottom register right hand A and nearby notes tended to be sharp. The second register corresponding notes were quite flat(compressed 12ths). After making a reamer for the barrel and reaming it to approximately the Moennig dimensions, these tuning problems disappeared. Thus, the barrel is a significant piece of a clarinet. Good luck!
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Author: Ed
Date: 2003-03-21 16:38
The Clark Fobes barrels are excellent, like all of his products. He really knows his stuff and has great products. They are definitely worth a try.
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Author: ctt489
Date: 2003-03-21 19:23
How come mm67 barrels generally are more than those below it?
Which is best to suite/fit R13A and R13Bb?
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