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 Bells
Author: Bazzer the Jazzer 
Date:   2003-02-20 01:56

In the one of the replies to the posting 'Selmer Clarinets -- I'm sold...' someone mentioned about set up, he mentioned all the usual and the bell, this reminded me of a program some years ago on UK TV about the demise of the Umpingo tree, on the progamme they visited a clarinet makers factory, I cant remember which, but they interviewed a guy who was setting up top of the range clarinets, he was trying different bells on the instrument to get the correct sound/tuning etc, my question is...is this of any importance to any players out there? just am academic question.

Barrie

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 RE: Bells
Author: Wes 
Date:   2003-02-20 05:57

Yes, he was rotating the bells to find the best rotational position before putting the trademark on. There's no magic, bells and barrels play better when given the best physical alignment. I do this on all my clarinets, marking the best position with black nail polish. I need all the iotas of improvement I can get. Good luck!

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 RE: Bells
Author: Bazzer the Jazzer 
Date:   2003-02-20 10:44

Wez, thanks for that, I will experiment on my clarinets, though it will difficult om my metal Selmer :-)

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 RE: Bells
Author: Jim Mougey 
Date:   2003-02-20 12:18

Bazzer: That program was from Boosey-Hawkes. Not only the bell, but the barrel was rotated. I remember this program because a block of wood split while it was being turned on a lathe.

Jim (M)

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 RE: Bells
Author: Synonymous Botch 
Date:   2003-02-20 12:19

Metal clarinets are more sensitive to the presence of quantum singularities and swamp gas. Rotating the bell on a metal horn may very well cause incipient psychoses to manifest.

But wait - you're already playing the pain stick!

Want a real shocker?

Take the bell off and play the horn... howzat sound?
(The notes pop out of the highest open tone hole, donchaknow)

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 RE: Bells
Author: Don Poulsen 
Date:   2003-02-20 13:01

I tried rotating the bell on my bass clarinet, but then I couldn't play the lowest note on the instrument, which isn't too much of a loss since I rarely use it. I then tried rotating the neck. Fingering became a little more difficult.

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 RE: Bells
Author: David Spiegelthal 
Date:   2003-02-20 13:49

Instead, I leave the barrel and bell where they are, and just rotate the body of the instrument. It's all relative, you know....

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 RE: Bells
Author: Bazzer The Jazzer 
Date:   2003-02-20 16:48

Good God, I love this web site, it generates a lot of good information and help(usually!) and a lot of fun.


Barrie

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 RE: Bells
Author: CPW 
Date:   2003-02-21 02:10

Synchronous Bash (or however he spells it) opined that quatum singularities effect metal clarinets. Well have younz (he used that Picksburgese expression before) looked down a wooden clarinet?
It IS a Black Hole!!! And dampits look like worms......so we have quantum worm holes. See.......playing clarinet is just like unclear physics.

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 RE: Bells
Author: Synonymous Botch 
Date:   2003-02-21 12:40

Properly played, and aligned to a perfect second (of pitch) will cause plasma jets from the audience.

That and Schroedinger's cat will leave the room.

*****
There once was a player named Marette,
who found her toneholes misaligned, and she would fret

Then a worldly friend, calming and suave
Applied a curartive salve

And today, they make beautiful music (you bet)

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 RE: Bells
Author: CPW 
Date:   2003-02-21 14:57

When confounded reed stiffness
puts me in a huff
I wip out my knife
When others use rush
Barbasol

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 RE: Bells
Author: CPW 
Date:   2003-02-21 15:00

oh I forgot...How can you tell if Schroedinger's cat has
left the audience?....
Same reason Tabuteau left a Reginal Kell recital
The plasma jets had vibrato

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 RE: Bells
Author: David Spiegelthal 
Date:   2003-02-21 16:45

My brain 'urts!

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 RE: Bells
Author: contragirl 
Date:   2003-02-21 16:47

So I assume that the jets flying out of my bass clarinet are due to the fact that it is a supermassive blackhole?

Personally, I go into my studio class with my soprano clarinet and the pianist is sitting there about to play... and I have the bell of my horn to my face. Then I proceed to play it like a trumpet that has a mouthpiece that is too big... doesn't sound too good, and I get some weird looks. Playing a rotated horn upside down doesn't seem to work either. :)

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 RE: Bells
Author: Vic 
Date:   2003-02-21 20:35

And - Heisenberg may have been here.

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 RE: Bells
Author: Mark Charette 
Date:   2003-02-21 20:39

Of course, if you see him - you won't know how fast he was going ...

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 RE: Bells
Author: Todd W. 
Date:   2003-02-21 20:47

Vic --

"And - Heisenberg may have been here." You seem uncertain about that.

Todd W.

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 RE: Bells
Author: Vic 
Date:   2003-02-21 21:38

Todd -

As Mark implied, we can either measure Heisenberg's presence, or his velocity. We can't do both. I'm thinking he probably actually wasn't here, but when he wasn't, he was moving pretty doggone fast.

But that's just my theory.

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 RE: Bells
Author: Todd W. 
Date:   2003-02-21 22:39

Vic --

So, you mean the observer can only see Heisenberg when the observer's not there?

Maybe this explains Vandoren reeds: There are 10 good ones in every box until the box is opened. (And somewhere, sometime, someone will open a box of Vandorens and out will jump Schroedinger's cat.)

Todd W.

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 RE: Bells
Author: CPW 
Date:   2003-02-21 22:40

As you play faster, the clarinet get heavier....It's all relative.

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 RE: Bells
Author: Mark Charette 
Date:   2003-02-22 02:24

CPW wrote:
>
> As you play faster, the clarinet get heavier....

And shorter ... and the pitch changes ... but it's only apparent to the listener ...

The player merrily continues on ...

and plays to Schroedinger's cat ...

who's alive and dead at the same time ...

until the wave collapses ...

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 RE: Bells
Author: Don Berger 
Date:   2003-02-22 18:47

Vunderbahr!! Applying an ultrathin layer of Es [einsteinium] to bad reads should help us to achieve 99 [at wt %] of Heis' invisible light to all of our problems. Don

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 RE: Bells
Author: CPW 
Date:   2003-02-22 20:01

A revised theory says that the speed of light was faster at the time of the big bang. VLS.......variable light speed.....can lead to a GUT......grand unified theory.......but will it let me play clarinet any faster.....and does it mean that the cat can indeed be dead and alive at the same time (my dog is capable of that trick even now)

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 RE: Bells
Author: Mark Charette 
Date:   2003-02-22 20:42

CPW wrote:
>
> A revised theory says that the speed of light was faster
> at the time of the big bang.

Hmmm ... last I read the expansion was faster than the speed of light, but since the areas could not communicate there was no violation of the constancy on the speed of light ... the law is a bit subtle - there can be no communication faster than the speed of light <i>in vacuo</i> but that doesn't preclude things happening that exceed the speed of light.

But we digress ...

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 Re: Bells
Author: Don Berger 
Date:   2003-02-23 20:03

Just hate to see a "tongue-in-cheeker" disappear into the archives without a "new BBoard" revival. Don

Thanx, Mark, Don

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 Re: Bells
Author: CPW 
Date:   2003-02-23 20:47

Now we need a emoticon for tachyons.

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