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 double tonguing
Author: princess shebooboo 
Date:   2003-12-28 03:39

i recently had a supply teacher for music class and she yelled at me and told me i should double tongue my sixteeth note triplet passage cause i was hard but i said i can't double tongue. Can you double tongue on a sax ? i thought you couldn't

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 RE: double tonguing
Author: sömeone 
Date:   2003-12-28 03:54

Yes its definitely possible. You CAN double toungue on practically all wind instruments. BUT it does take a lot of effort on some instruments compared to others, for example the flute is much more easier to learn double tounging whereas the oboe its much more difficult. You may need to consult your tutor to know the most efficient way on how to learn it. Good luck.

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 RE: double tonguing
Author: Dee 
Date:   2003-12-28 13:29

Actually double tounging is rarely needed on a sax or clarinet. Most of the time the problem is incorrect single tonguing or poor synchronization of the tongue and fingers.

Make sure that when you tongue, that only the tongue moves. Too many people also move the jaw slightly, which really slows you down. Make sure that the tongue moves as little as possible, just lightly touching the reed with the tip of the tongue. Before you tackle double tonguing, make sure your single tonguing is nearly perfect. For maximum tonguing speed, you must be relaxed. Tension slows muscle activity and speed way down.

Finger synchronization is also key. In many cases the fingers are following the tongue leading to a sluggish and thuddy sounding tonguing. The fingers must lead the tongue. i.e. The fingers must move to the next note BEFORE the note is tongued. So practice slowly having the fingers lead the tongue. Then speed up.



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 RE: double tonguing
Author: Theboy_2 
Date:   2003-12-28 14:50

I find double tonguing is easier for the insanely fast passages, but otherwise not needed. music teachers where i live tell us to tongue with the TA, or DA. so do a combination, so TA KA, or DIG GA(this is more for brass instruments). this takes a lot of practise, but can prove useful to know. and if need be TOO KA TA for triple tonguing. hope this helps.

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 RE: double tonguing
Author: d-oboe 
Date:   2003-12-28 17:29

I am biased, being an oboe player, and that double tonguing is insanely difficult on our instrument, but I would agree with Dee: learn how to efficiently single tongue, before double tonguing. Personally I like the sound of single tonguing, because it is in this case where the tongue hits the reed everytime, thus producing a sharper, crisper, attack. Double tonguing requires "artificial" tonguing by using a different syllable,(usually ka) and on woodwind instruments this tends not to sound so great. So in general use double tonguing (if you can even do it) as a last resort. That's my opinion.

D-oboe

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 RE: double tonguing
Author: Tony 
Date:   2004-01-14 01:12

I play oboe my self i just started and im having trouble just single tounging can someone teach me how to the oboe is very difficult and im having a hard time with it please and thank you!!

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 RE: double tonguing
Author: flute player 
Date:   2004-03-02 08:55

i just happened to come across this site and saw this. i'm only student. like 12 years old. have u done flutter tongueing?

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 RE: double tonguing
Author: the new guy 
Date:   2004-03-09 23:16

Well i use the flutter tongue on my clarinet out of nowhere one days and i diden't even know it was called like that.My teacher told me.But i haven't seen a single sheet music whit fluter tongue yet.

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 RE: double tonguing
Author: Gabie Deitos 
Date:   2004-03-16 01:12

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 RE: double tonguing
Author: lyon 
Date:   2005-06-04 15:29

I have developed a technique of double tonguing where I flick my tongue side to side across the opening of the mouthpiece. It's difficult to get completely accurate timing and I can 't hold it up for long passages. However it works well for a tremolo effect, when done as fast as possible (as heard in the sax solo on Mingus's goodbye porkpie hat).

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