The Fingering Forum
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Author: BHO Tenor Sax
Date: 2002-09-18 00:06
Is it just me, or does it seem that nobody cares about the tenor sax? In my band, the director always forgets to tune my section (there are three of us, out of approx. 80 people)...also, if there is an important part, and the tenors are one of the instruments that have it, the director doesn't seem to notice it on the score...plus, the T. sax gets some of the worst parts sometimes...if it wasn't for jazz, I don't know what'd I do...
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Author: BHO Tenor Sax
Date: 2002-09-18 00:09
Plus, why do the saxophones have to have such a ridiculously small range...2 1/2 octaves...what's that all about...I see these trumpets playing 3, 4 octaves...and I feel like a inadequate horn player...
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Author: BHO Tenor Sax
Date: 2002-09-18 00:10
What's the deal with the slashes before the commas...
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Author: Torus Tubarius
Date: 2002-09-18 00:26
Well, as an oboist that has played in bands before, I know exactly what you mean. If ever the director wants to hear a part that we're doubling with the flutes or trumpets or somebody, we usually get left out. On our case, it's simply because the band world generally isn't a hospitable place for double reeds. They don't know what to make of us, and often I don't know what to make of them. In a lot of band music you see, I'd say at least 80% of it, the oboe and bassoon parts are written as afterthoughts, as if the composer was like, "Oh yeah I gotta throw the double reed players some parts, we'll just double the oboes with the flutes and the bassoons with the tubas." Perhaps in concert band music the tenor sax is treated similarly.
I suppose we each have our respective havens to which we can flee however, orchestras for me and jazz for you.
I used to be a saxophone player, and the range is not limited to just two and a half octaves. Add altissimo and the sky is the limit.
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Author: BHO Tenor Sax
Date: 2002-09-18 00:50
And what exactly is "altissimo"?
I can only play from low B flat to a high F sharp, plus an extremely high C...it is actually a squeak, but it is in tune...
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Author: Torus Tubarius
Date: 2002-09-18 02:58
Well, have you ever watched Saturdady Night Live and listened to their tenor sax player during the intro and exit music? Those ludicrously high notes he's hitting? That's altissimo. It's the next range up on the saxophone above the high F-sharp. It is produced by forcing higher harmonics out of the horn with odd combinations of fingers and changes in emboucure. Actually I wouldn't be surprised if that "squeak" you are talking about is some sort of altissimo note, since sometimes altissimo notes just boil down to controlled squeaking.
There's a fingering chart for altissimo on saxophone here on this site, just hit the link at the top of the page that says, "Back to the Woodwind Fingering Guide Home Page." Look for the saxophone fingering charts on the left.
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Author: Gnomon
Date: 2002-09-18 07:38
Before you launch into trying all the altissimo fingerings for your tenor sax, be warned that the embouchure needed to play these notes is quite different. It is recommended that you start by practising the "Front F" fingerings for high E and F (Octave + f + L2 + L3 and Octave + f + L3). When you can get those notes to come out every time, then try the higher ones.
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Author: priit part
Date: 2002-09-24 20:24
from where to get the exact fing.-ing chart for weltklang tenor B&S?
How to polish/clean the Sil. Plated body very cheeply/Quickly?
What does the B&S mean?
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Author: Benny B
Date: 2002-10-14 18:59
ok 1st of all what kind of a band are you in?
80 freeking people????????
maybe your just pissed because tenor saxs arent the type of an instrument to be a leader in that kind of band. if the music is orchestral then tenors are not needed.
sax are made for jazz/dixy music.
further more its NOT a forgotten instrument
your band director is just a moron.
tell me what kind of music you play.
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Author: Clement
Date: 2002-10-29 12:22
Don't think like that , i can understand u , coz i haad the same problem in my band too . But , it's depends on the director . Tenor sax also a very important part in a band . Then , u have 2 tune it youself , train your ears 2 listen 2 others pitch .
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Author: Cletus
Date: 2002-11-13 22:46
Well, the deal is that Tenor Sax is not usually played by people like starting, so if you are, its because Most good tenor players started on Alto, Tenor just doesn't really get parts in certain bands
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Author: Werix22
Date: 2003-06-09 21:56
Cletyus is completely wrong. I happen to know that John Coltrane, Lebby Pickett, George Young, and Phil Woods all started on tenor. Also, i know SO many pewople who start on tenor.
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