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Author: Jenna
Date: 2005-03-14 23:29
Hey ya'll. I'm an original Tenor Sax player turned to Bari. I have a playing test tomorrow and it is on the concert Ab, Gb, D and B scales.
To transpose I know you add one sharp, subtract a flat... I am just stuck on concert D and B.
- For concert D: If I start on E for tenor (3 sharps) and I then add one, that gives me 4 sharps for the bari sax scale. Which note do I then start on?
- For concert B: I am lost on this one; I start on C# for tenor, and then what?!?! Please help me!!
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Author: TorusTubarius
Date: 2005-03-15 05:14
Wait now, the concert D scale on tenor, which starts on E is going to have 4 sharps, not 3. So you add another sharp to the bari scale and you'll start on B. The scale will go:
B-C#-D#-E-F#-G#-A#-B
The concert B scale starts on C# and will go:
C#-D#-E#-F#-G#-A#-B#-C#
This is enharmonically (but not theoretically) the same scale as the Db scale:
Db-Eb-F-Gb-Ab-Bb-C-Db
if that helps you to remember the fingerings better.
I would recommend that if you're progressed enough that you're now having to deal with things like the concert B scale, that you begin to think of scales in a way other than adding a sharp here and losing a flat there.
A better way to remember your scales is to think of them in terms of half steps and whole steps. All your major scales will be in the pattern:
whole-whole-half-whole-whole-whole-half
So if you look at your C scale, there is a whole step between C & D, a whole step between D & E, a half between E & F and on up along the pattern. This is the same for <i>every major scale</i> and learning this will ultimately lead to an easier understanding of scales. Much easier than having to think of adding and subtracting sharps or flats.
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Author: jon
Date: 2005-03-22 16:07
ok let me help you. this will be a great help.
so bari is in the key of e flat while tenor is in the key of b flat. y is this i mportant you ask? the key of c is where it is transposed from. so on a c instrument, like a trombone, piano and such, a tenor is exactly 1 note above that not so if a c instrument had a b you have a c. so a bari is exactly 3 steps below a c instrument. so therefor a b on a c instrument would be a g. so. if you are transposing from tenor to bari just go 4 steps below the tenor note. this is about the best way to do it. and just use logic on half steps and whole steps and play around with it a bit and you will start to understand it.
musically yours,
Jon
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Author: musical lottie
Date: 2005-04-01 14:52
Further to Jon's reply, how are you with thinking in intervals? I don't want to confuse you but just think down a minor third from the concert pitch for bari - and of course for any other Eb instrument. (So if you want to play alto and have to deal with concert pitches this'll work for that too.) And if you don't like thinking in intervals then ignore me.
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Author: Monica
Date: 2006-03-20 02:17
I mainly play flute and have all of the concert scales for it but I also play tenor sax and would like to transpose it to tenor sax. How do I do that? I can't remember how much different the two instruments are, I know that they are close but I can't remember. If anyone has an answer please e-mail me. Thank you. If you know of any web sites that can help with this I would really like that information.
Monica
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