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 piu mosso and more terms
Author: michael 
Date:   2004-07-06 18:40

since people are asking the definitions of music terms, i have a few i question.
what these mean:
- piu mosso ( i know it means little motion but what does that mean?! slow down, speed, stay at the same, expressively speed up and slow down to fit the music??!! what does it mean!!!!???)
- il canto marcato ( i have know clue what this means)
- cedez (Huh??)
- smorzando (...?)
- una corda (obviously it means one chord but what the *#$@ does that mean???)
- piu marcato del principio (???)

now more:
- how do you play emphatically?
- how do you play presto but tenuto?
- how do you play dolce?


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 RE: piu mosso and more terms
Author: TorusTubarius 
Date:   2004-07-06 22:59

<i>Piu</i> in Italian actually means "more", not "little". So <i>piu mosso</i> means you should speed up a little at that point.

<i>Il canto marcato</i> is one I haven't seen before personally, but I would think it means to play in a melodic, yet strictly rhythmical fashion. So you should play in a singing manner, but not take any liberties with the tempo. Anyone else ever see this one?

<i>Cedez</i> is French, and it means to play the phrase softer and softer towards the end, as if you were yielding to what is to come afterwards. It serves pretty much the same function as the Italian notation <i>morendo</i> or <i>smorzando</i>, the one you have below it. I remember seeing that one in the Ravel <i>Pavane pour une infante defunte<i>.

<i>Una corda</i> is something you see in piano music a lot and it means that the soft pedal should be pressed. I don't know what it means for other instruments.

<i>Piu marcato del principio</i> literally means "more marked than the beginning". So I guess when you get to that section, you should be playing more marcato than whatever you were playing at the beginning of the piece.

How do you play emphatically? Umm... if you're playing a phrase, and it sounds too wimpy, you're not playing it emphatically enough? "Emphatically" is really sort of an ambiguous term to use to describe playing music. I can think of lots of different constrasting sections of music, all of which should be played "emphatically".

Presto but tenuto? That's where tonguing adeptly will pay off. Try to think of all the notes in a phrase like that as being connected with the air, almost as if they were slurred. Then allow your tongue to move in and separate them, but only for the smallest interval possible. Also, try to avoid accenting any of the notes; this will further the effect of a fast, but connected passage.

Dolce means you play "sweetly". So you just... I dunno... sing sweet nothings with your instrument.  :) Playing expressively is something that's really hard to teach. You can teach people to phrase better, but there is an ineffable quality to playing "sweetly" that one must simply acquire from listening to others and genuinely having something to say themselves through their music.



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 RE: piu mosso and more terms
Author: Eoin McAuley (Gnomon) 
Date:   2004-07-07 07:13

In singing, "marcato" means "markedly", stressing each note slightly. I don't know if it means the same thing when combined with "il canto".

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 RE: piu mosso and more terms
Author: Ember 
Date:   2004-07-07 14:10

Do you speak italian, Eoin?

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 Woops
Author: Ember 
Date:   2004-07-07 14:12

Uhm I mean Torus :)

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 RE: piu mosso and more terms
Author: TorusTubarius 
Date:   2004-07-07 21:35

Nope, I just know a few words and phrases. That's all I took with me after my one Italian 101 class in school. I do however speak Spanish fairly well (an increasing necessity where I live), and that helps me to reason out Italian to some degree. For instance, <i>principio</i> means "beginning" in Spanish as well.

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 RE: piu mosso and more terms
Author: Ember 
Date:   2004-07-08 10:02

Cool :)

But "principio" is pronunciated in two different ways in spanish and italian. I think. Isn't it? I just know italian and a very little spanish.

Where do you live?

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 RE: piu mosso and more terms
Author: TorusTubarius 
Date:   2004-07-08 22:15

I live in Alabama which is in the southeastern US.

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 RE: piu mosso and more terms
Author: Ember 
Date:   2004-07-09 00:12

Cool... Alabama is one of the USA states I'd really like to see!

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 RE: piu mosso and more terms
Author: TorusTubarius 
Date:   2004-07-10 00:07

Let me know if you know you're going to end up visiting, you can look me up! Incidentally, where in Italy are you? Italy is an absolutely beautiful country. I've been there twice. The first time to Rome and Florence, and the second time we drove down in a bus from Rome to Bari, and from there to see the Grotto. Lovely country, lovely people.

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 RE: piu mosso and more terms
Author: Ember 
Date:   2004-07-10 12:10

Im' in central Italy, not very very far from Rome, but in the other side (on the Adriatic sea) :) Urbino is my town, near Rimini...

If I'll visit your country I'll let you know, don't worry ;) you'll be my guide! Hehe... :P

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