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Author: vanillapudding
Date: 2008-08-04 02:54
Hi - I'm new here. I've been playing saxes/cl/fl/bsn for many years and I teach at a small high school in Portland, Oregon. We (read our administration) decided to do Music Man this Fall. We have limited resources for the pit orchestra with almost all parts covered by competent players (another stipulation is that the pit orchestra MUST consist of students). HOWEVER, none of my players are able doublers and since the reed books (except book 1 and 3) all contain mixed doublings, I am looking at doing some heavy copying and pasting and transposing in order to make "single instrument" reed books for the show. I have done this before for "The Boyfriend" and "Patience" and it was a royal pain in the a**, taking 40-50 hours of work - and I'm an expert user of Sibelius! Anyway, does anyone know of any resources to locate single-instrument books like these, because I'm SURE someone has to have been in the same boat I'm in, and already done this work. Any ideas?
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Author: anonrob
Date: 2008-08-04 16:23
I am afraid some might be afraid of potential copyright violations in sharing what they had done.
Good luck in finding someone.
Rob
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Author: vanillapudding
Date: 2008-08-05 07:14
Let me clarify: my school has rented all of the pit orch books from MTI - we have paid our rental and royalty fees, so I don't think this would infringe copyright?
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2008-08-05 11:07
vanillapudding wrote:
> Let me clarify: my school has rented all of the pit orch books
> from MTI - we have paid our rental and royalty fees, so I don't
> think this would infringe copyright?
Actually - yes, it would (it would be an arrangement). In a practical sense, I don't think anyone would notice.
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Author: vanillapudding
Date: 2008-08-09 20:57
I disagree. Merely re-positioning the music into single-instrument books while retaining exactly the same instrumentation would not be arranging. I suppose the issue would be the actual "cutting & pasting" process. I can't believe no-one has run into this problem before. At this point, I'm just moving forward.
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Author: Bret Pimentel
Date: 2008-08-10 12:15
I believe Mark is right--whether you consider it to be "arranging" or not, it's still a violation of copyright law, and probably your rental contract, too. But I think he's also right that no one will notice if you do it for your show.
I frequently play for community theater productions where the reed books are "arranged" in some way, but the parts likely wouldn't be useful to anyone else. They are generally retooled to suit the instruments available to a specific group of musicians (we have a drummer who doubles on clarinet, for example), they reflect the particular production's unique decisions on what material gets played and what material gets cut, and ultimately they depend on cryptic pencil scribblings by the individual musicians ("Let's put a G-minor chord here, then jump back to the vamp, and then skip ahead to bar 139 of the entr'acte..."). And rarely does anyone take the time to put it neatly into Sibelius or Finale--usually it's photocopied pages from the original books, rearranged and marked up.
It's a useful idea that you're suggesting (single-instrument versions of the reed books), but I think someone who tried to make it available would hear pretty quickly from the show publishers' lawyers.
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Author: Jaysne
Date: 2008-08-25 23:55
Yes, re-tooling anything in a show is technically a copyright violation. You're supposed to do the show exactly as written, no new instrumentation, no cuts, nothing.
Of course, in every one of the 70 shows I've done, we've made cuts and other changes in the music and staging. Everybody does it, and no one's gotten in trouble yet.
It's like driving 56 in a 55 mph zone--technically you're breaking the law, but no cop is ever going to stop you for it.
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