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Author: camille
Date: 2006-11-08 08:17
What are the views out there on which brands of oboe are the least pernickety [ie, most friendly] when it comes to reeds?
To give an example, my teacher's Marigaux 2001 really did need an almost-perfect reed to work well, while his Rigoutat would play with almost any bit of wood. And my Buffet Crampon is very sensitive to staple length - anything other than 46mm staples and the scale goes to pot.
Any thoughts?
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Author: d-oboe
Date: 2006-11-08 11:19
It's always a matter of personal opinion. There are many things that influence someone's choice in oboe:
-The way one blows in the oboe
-The sound concept one has
-The reeds one uses
-Embouchure style
-musical style
-teacher influence (and in some places the requirement to play a specific instrument)
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Author: cjwright
Date: 2006-11-08 12:59
I think certain oboes have certain tendancies. For example, the older Marigauxs use to be very reed friendly, and were pitched slightly higher, so you generally need a flatter, and slightly more vibrant reed due to the extra thickness of the bore. I still find older Marigauxs to be a bit "rounder" (or deader!?!?) in sound. Meanwhile, the friendliest oboes I've ever tried for non-perfect reeds are Laubins, which sounded the same despite what popsicle sticks you stuck in it. Lorees are generally more reed "pernickety" in my opinion.
Whatever oboe you play on, I do think you still strive for that "perfect reed", never quite content with what you have.
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Author: mschmidt
Date: 2006-11-08 18:30
My 1990's Marigaux 901 is quite reed-tolerant, but I haven't found it to be pitched high. I've recently tried shortening the lay of my reeds trying to keep the pitch up.
Mike
Still an Amateur, but not really middle-aged anymore
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Author: oboist
Date: 2006-11-08 20:11
Try using Glotin staples with Buffet and see what happends
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Author: camille
Date: 2006-11-09 09:36
Thanks to all for your responses - this is really useful.
Oboist - that's what i use - Glotin 46mm staples. That works for my setup [Howarth -2 shaper and "short scraped" reeds].
Trying to get from this thread
A) which instruments are most sensitive to differences in setup, and which B) tolerate less optimal reeds and conditions.
And... if Glotin staples pair well with Buffet, etc. how about other instruments? ie, which staples would be the norm for Howarth, Loree, Marigaux, Rigoutat, Dupin, etc, etc, etc?
Thanks!
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Author: cjwright
Date: 2006-11-09 13:48
Glotin are so inconsistent for me however. I'm fortunate to have an oboe reed material shop here in Seoul, and I take my loree mandrel to his shop and go through his Glotins and pick the ones that fit my mandrel. I play around with three staples: The Weber, the Chudnow skinny corkless, and the glotin. I like the Chudnow because of clarity in the sound and response (and more sound!), the weber has a nice ring, and the Glotin are the best pitched for my upper register.
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Author: GMac
Date: 2006-11-12 00:40
I would definitely say that Yamahas are very reed-friendly (I swear, I'm not a rep for them or anything, I just really like the instruments!). I find that they have the ability to compensate for the most commonly poorly-made aspects of a reed. I've personally found that Lorees are very difficult to make reeds for. I know that Dick Woodhams (Philadelphia) recommends that his students buy a Loree to make reeds for (because you have to make the perfect reed) and then buy a Yamaha to actually play on, because they cover up so much! Interesting idea...
Graham
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Author: vboboe
Date: 2006-11-13 06:05
... so is the A-scrape reed actually designed to go with the loree in particular?
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Author: cjwright
Date: 2006-11-13 07:49
A scrape is???
I have heard that Lorees are pitched to 440, while many of the other European brands are pitched slightly higher. dunno about the "scrape" though.
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Author: oboist
Date: 2006-11-13 07:55
Hi!
I have also found that Buffet works much better with Chudnow E staple
Hope this helps
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Author: d-oboe
Date: 2006-11-13 19:05
The loree is a french oboe, so it's going to probably be tested with a short-scraped french reed.
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Author: cjwright
Date: 2006-11-14 00:40
but being that it sells the most models to america, it's made for the american market.
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