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 Low notes and F (forked and regular) will not play...r/o please
Author: Ashley91489 
Date:   2006-10-25 23:50

I got it fixed but the low notes and F are still giving me some trouble. The problem was screws out of adjustment so what would I need to do to get the F, C, Eb, and lower to come out properly?

Thanks for any and all advice!

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 Re: Low notes and F (forked and regular) will not play...r/o please
Author: vboboe 
Date:   2006-10-26 06:33

... *** more!*** screws out of adjustment ?

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 Re: Low notes and F (forked and regular) will not play...r/o please
Author: stevensfo 
Date:   2006-10-26 07:18

After having it recommended to me, I bought 'A method for adjusting the oboe and english horn' by Carl Sawicki.

It takes you very carefully through the adjustment of the screws and I used it on an old Fox oboe I bought from Ebay.

Your problem may also be due to a pad/key sticking, or the spring too weak.

Steve



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 Re: Low notes and F (forked and regular) will not play...r/o please
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2006-10-26 14:25

The F#-G# adjustment (on the arm from RH fingerplate 1) may be out stopping RH 1 from closing properly.

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

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 Re: Low notes and F (forked and regular) will not play...r/o please
Author: hautbois 
Date:   2006-10-26 15:48

Chris P. always offers such useful comments on this site! I might add to Chris' suggestions that the screw adjustment for the closing of the forked F resonance key, if you have one, also be checked.

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 Re: Low notes and F (forked and regular) will not play...r/o please
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2006-10-26 16:43

But be careful when adjusting the F vent screw - if it's over adjusted it will stop RH 2 (middle finger) plate closing, and if it's out of adjustment your low notes won't speak from E downwards.

To check the F vent, close RH 3 to free the F vent, and then close RH 2 to close both the middle fingerplate and the F vent. Get the thinnest cigarette papers and cut one into a long triangle with the narrowest point measuring 1-2mm wide, and use this tip as a feeler gauge to check for drag when the pads are LIGHTLY closed against the tonehole - you should feel an equal amount of drag when pulling the paper out from between the closed pad and the tonehole when testing the entire circumference of the pad/tonehole.

And also use the feeler gauge to test the regulation - while holding down RH 3, place the cigarette paper between the F vent pad and it's tonehole and close RH 2, if you feel drag on the paper when you pull it, this means the F vent IS closing, but then you also need to test the RH 2 pad as well to see if it has the same amount of drag. If it's much lighter than the F vent, you have to back off the screw on the F vent to equalise the pressure. Also test the small pad in between RH 1 and 2 as well as this could also be out of adjustment.

It's much easier for me to demonstrate than to write about! If in doubt, go to an oboe specialist as they will know what they're looking for and how to deal with it. I've seen too many oboes badly adjusted by general repairers as they don't understand the nature of the beast! They may be alrignt with clarinets as there's hardly any adjustments on them that will knock something else out owing to the simplicity of the clarinet mechanism (Boehm system), but on oboes any poorly adjusted screws (both over and under adjusted) can cause nothing but trouble as the keywork is complex in comparison.

This site has a diagram and suggestions on how to check and adjust an oboe (copy and paste it - I can't get the link to work with the <....> things):

www.geocities.com/Vienna/Strasse/1946/

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

Post Edited (2006-10-26 16:51)

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