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 Re: F.Loree English Horn - Vintage
Author: Loree BF51 
Date:   2012-02-29 00:09

There is/are a few points that I disagree with you on, but first it should be clarified that, “prewar/postwar” refers to WWII, not WWI. I believe the trend toward a darker sound can be traced back to the creation by Marcel Tabuteau of the “full scrape – American style” reed, sometime between his arrival in the U.S. in 1905 and probably at the most by 1920, after he had been in the Philadelphia Orchestra for about 5 years. I have never seen the actual date in print, so if someone does know the date, would they please tell us! I think that he probably started asking Loree, if they could produce an oboe that would compliment his new reed type, rather than compensate for its more subdued vibrational characteristics. The fact that the Academy of Music’s hall was fairly dry sounding, may also have had an influence on this situation.
The Loree BF51 oboe that I had bought new in ’62 was noticeably heavier than the BB20 I had a few years before. While I’m not sure if it was “darker” or not, it was, much smoother. Instead of it being “...unrelentingly darker…” and being “…in a box…”, I felt just the opposite, as I was able to use a more freely, blowing reed without the middle G# and B-natural sounding raspy. Wouldn’t we all rather play on a more freely-blowing reed vs. a more resistant reed, given (giving) the same volume of sound? Also, I would think that many first Flutists would have welcomed this trend, as they wouldn’t have to worry nearly as much, about being covered over, when they had to play in unison (La Mer!) or in duet with the first oboe. Robert Bloom wrote an article advocating either a darker and/or a more flexible sound that was reprinted in the “Woodwind Anthology“ book. Regarding this, he mentions a request from Stokowski for a “Floboe” from Mr. Baker and himself. Another reference would be Mr. Eugene Izotov’s comments on his website, regarding the sonic quality of one of the shaper tips he uses. Respectfully yours (I hope!)

R. Still former student

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