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Author: HautboisJJ
Date: 2011-06-21 17:19
Thought someone else other than Robin might be interested in this...
I tried now MANY many oboes at Frank und Meyer, the obvious stand outs were Moennigs and Marigauxs (hardly surprising when they are the best sellers in Germany). But a pleasant surprise that came out from this test was a....no....you didn't guess it - A YAMAHA!
I think this brand definitely needs a re-branding and re-consideration. Of course we know that whole saphire thing was a bit unnecessary but really they make top tier world class instruments, conservative, but at the highest level. What a joy it was to try that!
Howard
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Author: HautboisJJ
Date: 2011-06-21 18:11
You would have to ask very specific questions, i can say so many things! Mr. Ludwig Frank himself has also proved to be very insightful.
Regards,
Howard
p.s. i am going again tomorrow, this time with another friend who plays superb to try some more with another pair of ears.
Post Edited (2011-06-21 18:12)
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Author: RobinDesHautbois
Date: 2011-06-21 19:03
Any way you can record stuff?
One question:
I have seen strange bells and other things on the internet. Apparently Emmanuel Dannan (principal at You-Tube Symphony 2011) plays a Ludwig Frank, but it looks a whole lot like a Josef.
=> Does he make "his own" oboes as separate from the Gebr. Mönning stuff?
Otherwise: because you also use short-scrape reeds......
TUNING, ease of blowing, pitch center relative to ease of bending it up/down
=> DON'T BE SHY TO WRITE A NOVEL!!!!
Robin Tropper
M.A.Sc., B.Mus., B.Ed.
http://RobinDesHautbois.blogspot.ca/music
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Author: RobinDesHautbois
Date: 2011-06-21 19:05
And could you mention my name and the fact that I am salivating with envy at you being there?
He should remember me, we corresponded a bit last winter. Tell him I'm the weirdo from Canada who is learning German and hoping to do a "pilgrimage of oboe factories from Paris to Berlin" in a few years. (Ein pilgerreise nach oboenfabrik)
Robin Tropper
M.A.Sc., B.Mus., B.Ed.
http://RobinDesHautbois.blogspot.ca/music
Post Edited (2011-06-21 19:07)
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Author: Oboe Craig
Date: 2011-06-22 00:26
Of all the oboes I tried at IDRS, the Yamaha line definitely held its own. Strangely, for me the Euro models seemed closer to my beloved Covey then the American ones. (Bore differences, I was told, but I cannot really explain them...)
Of the several other top and suiter brands there, only the Howarth was a decidedly a notch above.
I have used Yamaha gear (electronic stuff, synths, and a wind controller) for years and find it excellent overall. I bought a 500-series (entry pro flute) a couple years ago and remain very happy with it.
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Author: ohsuzan
Date: 2011-06-22 02:38
Speaking of beloved Coveys . . .
My most dearly beloved has cracked (again). This time, it is in the half-hole, right through the middle of the hole. Perhaps it is the original crack, extending.
I ripped off the keys and super-glued the cracks (two, on symmetrically opposite points in the tone hole itself -- not in the insert, in the counter-bored part of the tone hole itself).
Now I know why my half-hole was wonky, anyway. And as of this moment, the whole thing is playing reasonably well. But the top joint is still not holding a seal for more than about 3 seconds. I can't believe it still plays.
So, if I were looking for a replacement, where would I look? I cannot stand the idea of having a less beautiful tone than what I already have. Buffet Greenline? Yamaha? Marigaux?
This is a tragedy.
Susan
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Author: Jeltsin
Date: 2011-06-22 07:13
The result from the testing does not surprise me. I started with an intermediate Yamaha and I have had a few oboes since then, but even if the Yamaha never was an oboe that was easy to play, I still loves the sound of it, which for me is better than every other oboe I have heard (but I like the bright type of sound).
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Author: RobinDesHautbois
Date: 2011-06-22 10:28
I have mistaken Yamaha's for Lorees a few times.... but I'm still used to standard bore Loree, which seems to be quite seriously on the decline. A few Royale's I've heard impressed me for the tone quality..... need to see if the well known Loree quirks still apply.
Robin Tropper
M.A.Sc., B.Mus., B.Ed.
http://RobinDesHautbois.blogspot.ca/music
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Author: jhoyla
Date: 2011-06-22 12:43
As we all discussed a few years ago, Elizabeth Koch won her audition to the Atlanta Symphony playing a Yamaha.
She was then told she needed to upgrade to a Loree .. 
J.
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