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 Re: Marigaux, Rigoutat, Covey, etc...
Author: cjwright 
Date:   2010-03-19 20:23

Mark,
We all are "constricted" to some degree, whether it be by the reed, our physical makeup, or the instrument. It's a matter of how constricted is TOO constricted! When does "flexible" become "instable" or "wild"?

I've used the oboe gallery several times in correspondence with various reed clients, and while it's helpful, the problem I run into is a client will often want to sound like blahblah, but they're not sure whether they want to sound like him/her up close or from 50 feet out or from 200 feet.

When David and I test instruments/reeds/bells/etc, we start from up close and we walk from one end of his shop clear up to the front lobby, some 60-80 feet away. Different tones/instruments can sound unbelievably different from up close. For instance, I'm sure on the oboe sound gallery the Mack Sheherazade recording is from a relatively close distance (10-20 ft?) where as the Mack Mozart Oboe Concerto was obviously recorded from a further distance. Notice how so much of the lower overtones drop off, and his sound is much brighter and more shallow. You might be able to argue that it was a different reed and such, but most people who took a lesson with John Mack could tell you that he could take the best of reeds and the worst of reeds and he still sounded the same. Even the Quartet recording which was made 20 years earlier on vinyl sounds more like the Sheherazade recording, because it was obviously recorded closer up.

Finally, take time to listen to the Greenbank recording of the Barber. Her sound is as full, covered, luscious, and still full of color. Obviously that was recorded in a full orchestral setting, with the violin being closest to the microphone, but more of her overtones carry. I would be 90% sure that Greenbank's sound is probably not as "full, covered and dark" with so many lower overtones up close as Mack had. One final note: it's interesting that she was a pure de Lancie student.

Blog, An Oboe In Paradise
Solo Oboe, Thailand Philharmonic Orchestra

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