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 fingering question
Author: Jaysne 
Date:   2008-11-12 22:53

I have a quick triplet lick that goes: low D-Eb-F-G, all tongued. (The first three are the triplet, followed by the G on the next downbeat.)

What is the preferred fingering for the F? (Seems to me 1+3 in the right hand is easiest, but I know some people don't approve of that.) Thanks.

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 Re: fingering question
Author: JRJINSA 
Date:   2008-11-12 22:55

Whatever is easiest and get's the job done. Nothing wrong with the forked F and if it's that fast, any conductor who has a problem with forked F's wouldn't even hear it. Make your life simple...do what feels right.

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 Re: fingering question
Author: Jaysne 
Date:   2008-11-13 00:41

Thanks for the positive reinforcement! The note goes by so quickly, nobody' going to notice. It's definitely the easiest choice.

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 Re: fingering question
Author: GoodWinds 2017
Date:   2008-11-13 01:15

and my vote makes 3.

GoodWinds

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 Re: fingering question
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2008-11-13 09:18

Forked F is the best fingering. If it's a bit on the stuffy side, keep the Eb key open.

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

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 Re: fingering question
Author: oboemoboe 
Date:   2008-11-13 15:01

I would also recommend the forked F!

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 Re: fingering question
Author: GoodWinds 2017
Date:   2008-11-14 01:02

It's pretty unanimous, huh?

GoodWinds

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 Re: fingering question
Author: JRJINSA 
Date:   2008-11-14 12:54

Thinking so!

Question all:

Have any of you ever personally encountered a conductor who said, "NO FORKED F!" I don't know where I've heard it from but from somewheres someone said that conductors can be picky on these things. In the back of my mind I'm always thinking it's a no no. What have you all encountered out there with the "NO FORKED F!"?  :)

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 Re: fingering question
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2008-11-14 16:52

I think it's up to you which F sounds better - under some circumstances the forked F can be stuffy and buzzy if your reed isn't up to snuff, but in other cases the veiled quality of the forked F can be useful.

In ff passages where the forked F is more practical, vent it further with the Eb key.

Unless your conductor is an oboist and understands the problems that may be associated with it, then they may tell you not to use your forked F if they don't like the tone quality.

Makes you wonder why we still put up with keywork that has developed over time and companies (apart from a tiny minority) hadn't invested much development in Boehm or Sax system oboes which don't have forked Fs. But that's just tradition and some traditions with their hang-ups are hard to break (even if there is an easy option).

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

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 Re: fingering question
Author: GoodWinds 2017
Date:   2008-11-15 04:16

I never heard of something so silly. The F fingering is up to the player.

GoodWinds

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