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Author: bandito
Date: 2007-12-31 15:24
Hi all,
I wonder wich troubles comes out switching from modern to baroque oboe. Anybody in this group ever tried ? Wich your experience ?
Thanks
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Author: Dutchy
Date: 2007-12-31 18:27
You mean a baroque oboe isn't in tune with itself--i.e. problematic notes--or that it's hard to play at A-445 with other musicians?
I always thought it might be interesting, in a back-of-the-mind sort of way, to fool around with a baroque oboe (should one happen to fall into my lap at an outrageously low-low price), but I hear that you have to make your own reeds, so probably won't happen for me, but it's interesting to toy with the idea.
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Author: bandito
Date: 2008-01-01 13:56
Mmmh, not sure to understand the meaning of AR$$ .
Perhaps you refer to that joke saying that an example of second minor is a couple of baroque oboe playing the same note ;-) ?
Anyway my approach is near to Duchy's one i.e. if I can reach a really affordable baroque oboe I'll be happy to play around with it, maybe using English Horn reeds.
And I wonder if it should be really hard to play the baroque oboe when you are used to the modern one.
Concerning the tuning there is a lot of people using copies of old instruments, not only oboes, tuned at 440 ; of course they care not so much about to be philological .
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2008-01-01 14:05
You can buy Baroque reeds already made, probably makers such as Von Heune, Monk or Dalton would be able to put you onto makers.
In Germany there's several makers of ready made reeds and reasonably priced Baroque oboes (and they can be built to 415Hz or 440Hz).
A good place to start is e-m-s.com (can't make it clickable!)
I bought a Dirk Kloffer Baroque oboe and d'amore - they're fine to learn the basics of Baroque oboe playing on, and his reeds are excellent.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
Post Edited (2008-01-01 14:10)
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Author: oboeblank
Date: 2008-01-01 16:08
I played Baroque oboe for a semester while in University and I loved it.
If you have any experience playing the recorder then the fingerings will make sense.
There are notes that are a bit stuffy because of the crossed-fingering situation but generally the intonation is really very good.
It is more free blowing than the modern oboe, and you use vibrato sparingly, which is a real contrast to the modern oboe-well for some players anyway.
An english horn reed will be too large-most baroque oboists use baroque oboe cane-the gouge is thinner than an English horn gouge and the diameter is different. Use a baroque oboe reed.
If you find a decent instrument, buy it and take a couple of lessons. Better still, if you can, find a Baroque oboist and ask them what make they would recommend-sometimes they know someone who is selling off an old horn or can locate one for a decent price.
Good luck-it's well worth the struggles.
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Author: OboeAgain
Date: 2008-01-01 16:09
Stefano,
I have never played baroque oboe so I can't comment on your question, but I heard a fabulous player at the IDRS conference last summer. His name is Prof. Pietro Corna and his biography lists him as a professor at the Conservatory of Music at Novara.
Here is a link to a brief biography.
http://www.concertodautunno.it/cur/cornap.html
Maybe it would be worth contacting Prof. Corna and asking him questions.
Walter
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Author: bandito
Date: 2008-01-02 14:17
Hi all ,
many thanks for infos , especially concerning reeds .
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Author: vboboe
Date: 2008-01-03 16:51
... i think baroque oboes are very elegant in shape and exquisitely simple in design, and i utterly adore their warm 'ripe' sound, so different from relatively 'hard' modern oboes, but i'm still learning how to play an oboe, any oboe, and after watching a video of a pair of baroque oboists doing a Bach number, and watching those fingers flying up and down so fast and furious for lengthy periods of time, i figure my old fingers won't ever get around to that kind of expertise
... but if someone ever offers me a try at playing theirs, i will be delighted, and since i'm a big girl now you may find my shoulder in your way when you want it back !
it's interesting, isn't it, in these hectic modern times, how we're finding solace in the very old and easy-going (soft sounding) things?
maybe we should go for an even 'darker' and mellow A standard at 435?
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