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 Buffet R13 Greenline Repair
Author: vtmtbkr98 
Date:   2025-05-23 18:17

This is Mom here, daughter "tripped" and her 1.5 year old R13 Greenline was damaged. I need repair recommendations on a broken middle connection (cracked/broken off at the cork). I'm in VA and any clue how much this is going to cost. I tried to attach a picture but it won't let me.

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 Re: Buffet R13 Greenline Repair
Author: David H. Kinder 
Date:   2025-05-23 19:42

Try to post in the thread again, but instead of hitting 'post', click 'add attachments' and upload your pic that way.

As long as you have the parts, at least it's doable. No idea what the cost could be, but I wouldn't expect it to be inexpensive. Or rather, if it's inexpensive, I wouldn't expect it to be good.

Ridenour AureA Bb clarinet
Vandoren BD5 HD 13-series mouthpiece
Vandoren Optimum Silver ligature (plate 1)
Vandoren #4 Blue-box reeds

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 Re: Buffet R13 Greenline Repair
Author: clarnibass 
Date:   2025-05-23 20:04

There are probably at least several repairers in the USA that do this and I don't know what is close to your area, but I know a good option is Meridian Winds in Michigan or Matthew Slauson in New York.

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 Re: Buffet R13 Greenline Repair
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2025-05-23 22:40

Whoever is doing the work, you're best having them replace the broken middle tenon with a wooden (grenadilla) one as that's far stronger than plastic or ebonite, unless the replacement tenon graft is carbon fibre reinforced.

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

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 Re: Buffet R13 Greenline Repair
Author: m1964 
Date:   2025-05-23 23:43

https://www.nyc-woodwinds.com/

The owner does impeccable work and his prices are very modest (for the quality of work he does).

A tenon replacement needs to be done by a tech who is capable of doing it right so the instrument will play well and retain re-sale value after the repair.



Post Edited (2025-05-23 23:49)

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 Re: Buffet R13 Greenline Repair
Author: Paul Aviles 
Date:   2025-05-24 01:57

Check with the dealer (or an authorized Buffet dealer) about the length of the Buffet warranty on the replacement of the whole affected joint. I had a similar incident with the lower joint (at the bell) and got a replacement (and the work to put in pads....which is part of a new joint replacement) fully covered!


The items covered and length of coverage have been varying over the last 10 years or so, but definitely worth investigating.




................Paul Aviles



P.S. I wouldn't mix wood joint with one of Greenline material. The whole point of Greenline (mostly) is to be impervious to changes that occur with moisture and wood over time.



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 Re: Buffet R13 Greenline Repair
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2025-05-24 02:11

The whole point of Greenline may be that, but it's brittle as anything and a wooden tenon is better than any other material, bearing in mind entire clarinets have been made of wood since whenever and not all new materials are good in practice.

You can always get a tenon graft off another R13 top joint as there's most likely to be plenty of cracked ones about the place. And as it's the middle tenon, it's not going to be subject to as much punishment when it comes to moisture compared to the top tenon.

Plenty of repairers and even makers prefer to replace tenons on plastic and Greenline instruments with wooden ones as they do a much better job than composites or plastics and have inherent tensile strength which Greenline and other moulded or extruded plastics doesn't have at all.

And Greenline instruments can still crack between toneholes like wooden ones - it's not the wonder material many people seem to believe it is (which is purely down to all the marketing hype).

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

Post Edited (2025-05-24 02:53)

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