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Author: Feliped80
Date: 2024-04-21 13:56
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Hi everyone,
Recently after many years trying to find a C clarinet that played in tune, I was able to purchase one that is in great shape.
Been told it has a Ivan Muller key system but unfortunately haven’t been able to find any fingering charts or books for this system.
I’m playing with it but limited to what I can do due to having to find notes as im playing. If anyone knows where I might be able to find something or even has a pdf copy of one it would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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Author: donald
Date: 2024-04-21 19:28
A question, how do you know THIS ONE plays in tune if you don't even know the fingerings?
Btw this is basically the same as most German system clarinets (ie "Albert System" or "Oehler System" will have the same fingerings in the lower joint, and the same fingering in the top joint but missing some extra options that come from extra keys)
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2024-04-22 00:52
Any simple/Albert system fingering chart will work as this is a basic simple/Albert system. To check the actual pitch of it and more importantly what it's calibrated to (eg. 440Hz or otherwise), then play a C and see where that sits on your tuner.
As this clarinet doesn't have any LH ring keys, you will need to sharpen the F# (LH thumb only) by using the side F/C key.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: davidjsc
Date: 2024-04-24 19:53
Chris P wrote:
> Any simple/Albert system fingering chart will work as this is a
> basic simple/Albert system.
I found with my Albert C clarinet (sold to me as an Oehler system) that when I started going through the finguring charts for Alberts, it did require a bit of experimenting as there are some variation figurings that may work better or worse on one brand of Albert instrument than another.
On mine, E-flat 4 and F-4 were the trickier ones because they can sometimes be awkward for common notes and the 'standard' fingering didn't work well for tuning. What I ended up doing was going note by note with a tuner and trying the different variations for tuning and ease of use, and then wrote up my own fingering chart. On mine, not using the side key for F or F# (as you suggest) is more in tune than if I used it.
I find playing an Albert clarinet is closer to playing oboe finguring than Boehm figuring, so when I play on an Albert, I try to think I am playing my oboe and it seems to help make the fingering 'think' a lot easier.
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~~ Alto Clarinet; Bass Clarinet; B-flat and C Boehm Clarinets; Albert C Clarinet; Oboe ~~
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2024-04-25 03:17
Oboes and non Boehm system clarinets are developments of the Baroque and Classical instruments in the basic fingerings on them (based on a D Major scale/low register G on clarinets) have evolved over time and more and more keywork has been added, whereas Boehm (or Klose-Buffet) system clarinets (and Boehm system flutes which they were inspired by) were a complete redesign and the fingering is based on a C Major scale on them (or lower register F Major on clarinet).
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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