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 Vandoren Masters Mouthpieces
Author: SecondTry 
Date:   2023-05-22 04:01

Does anyone know if Vandoren still sells the CL4, 5, and 6 mouthpieces from their Masters series?

https://vandoren.fr/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/MASTERS-Bb-clarinet-mouthpieces.pdf

TIA

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 Re: Vandoren Masters Mouthpieces
Author: m1964 
Date:   2023-05-22 09:24

https://www.guitarcenter.com/Vandoren/Masters-Bb-Clarinet-Mouthpiece-CL5-1297873814861.gc



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 Re: Vandoren Masters Mouthpieces
Author: SecondTry 
Date:   2023-05-22 18:42

Let me try this question again.

When visiting Vandoren's website https://vandoren.fr/en/clarinet-mouthpieces/ the Masters series mouthpieces don't appear to be part of their product offerings anymore.

That vendors are selling them (new) unfortunately is of little indication to me that those vendors can also order additional stock and that Vandoren continues to manufacture the product line, the latter the real question.

To rephrase, by analogy, original design Chedeville's are also available for sale--even if only used. Sadly though these coveted mouthpieces for their rod rubber many believe have not been identically replicated new today.

Vendor sale, and manufacture replenishing of vendor requested additional stock with continued production are two different things. I seek to know if the latter still exists.

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 Re: Vandoren Masters Mouthpieces
Author: Robert N. 
Date:   2023-05-22 20:05

As far as I know, Vandoren is no longer making them.

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 Re: Vandoren Masters Mouthpieces
Author: Paul Aviles 
Date:   2023-05-22 20:10

It was a pretty good mouthpiece as I recall. The oddity was the less conical outer taper, for which it was recommended that you only use their M/O ligature specifically made for it. Many leatherette ligatures worked fine though.





…………Paul Aviles



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 Re: Vandoren Masters Mouthpieces
Author: m1964 
Date:   2023-05-23 10:19

SecondTry wrote:

"Does anyone know if Vandoren still sells the CL4, 5, and 6 mouthpieces from their Masters series?.."

Since original question was about Vandoren selling the MP, I provided a link to a seller...

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 Re: Vandoren Masters Mouthpieces
Author: donald 
Date:   2023-05-23 15:47

I quite liked the CL4 I got at Clarinetfest 2011 but was pretty keen on my Lomax 'pieces I had at the time, and sold the CL4 to a friend who now plays in several European orchestra. I asked her about it (the mouthpiece) about 5 years ago, and she remarked that she didn't know where it was- but now has about 10 B40s.
I was GIVEN a CL5 that is (like the M30) a bit more open than I usually like, but I unexpectedly find this facing rather easy to play and use it for teaching... the one time I used it in the professional setting I was criticized for being too loud (a first for me actually) and then fell very ill on the day of the concert so never got to give it a spin in the hall.
I've found the CL4 and CL5 to both be quite sharp, but nothing that can't be solved by an extra millimetre at the barrel end... in fact I have a lovely Lomax/Zinner 660 barrel that plays low in pitch for that given length, and this is a perfect match with the CL4 and 5.
The CL4 facing is very similar to the Vandoren M30D (which is NOT the same facing as an M30 btw), quite long with a tip opening around the 1.08/9 mark. The curve is a little flatter nearer the tip than the M30D, making it work slightly better with the Vandoren Blue box reeds (generally springier cane than V12)

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 Re: Vandoren Masters Mouthpieces
Author: Paul Aviles 
Date:   2023-05-23 19:49

The Masters were available in both "standard" pitch and the "lower" R13 pitch. I have both (actually) and recall preferring everything about the standard pitch version. Mine are the CL4s and are bit more "open" than the M13s I used before migrating two ESM mouthpieces (all very long ago).





................Paul Aviles



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