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Author: spikey1973
Date: 2023-05-15 19:36
To accompany my new mothpiece to arrive, I was looking for the suggested Behn Aria reeds. While looking on the website I found that there is also the new(er) Brio reeds from Behn. Does anyone have experiences with the Behn Brio vs Aria on the Fobes debut mouthpiece?
Kind greats
Matthieu
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Author: spikey1973
Date: 2023-05-15 21:21
After contact with Clark himself, he adviced me.. Dolce from Pilgenstorfer (3#).
So I will give those a go first, before importing the entire america's to europe
Kind greats
Matthieu
Post Edited (2023-05-16 22:22)
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Author: Ebclarinet1
Date: 2023-05-15 22:25
The Brio reeds seem to blow a little more freely and produce a bigger sound for me on my Fobes San Francisco mouthpiece. The Aria reeds are a bit more resistant and seem to last a good while too.
Eefer guy
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Author: lydian
Date: 2023-05-15 22:40
A beginner will have difficulty with a number 3. Maybe get input from your teacher before buying a box of reeds. Also consider that Vandoren are probably much easier to find locally.
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Author: kdk
Date: 2023-05-15 23:47
Ebclarinet1 wrote:
> The Brio reeds seem to blow a little more freely and produce a
> bigger sound for me on my Fobes San Francisco mouthpiece. The
> Aria reeds are a bit more resistant and seem to last a good
> while too.
>
> Eefer guy
Another instance of language getting in the way of communication. I doubt if you and I really feel different sensations when we play Brios and Arias, yet I would have said the Arias are easier-blowing (freer) and that there's more resistance in the Brios. I think the difference between us is in the use of "freely" and "resistant."
Karl
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Author: Musikat
Date: 2023-05-16 01:32
Karl, I agree with you. For me, Brios were stuffer and more resistant. I prefer the Arias on my setup.
FWIW my son, who is 16, also plays on both a Behn Overture (similar to the Debut) and the Behn Prescott closed facing mouthpieces. For him, Aria 3-3.5s work very nicely. Or Vandoren Blue Box 3s.
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Author: Robert N.
Date: 2023-05-16 01:54
For the Fobes Debut, I would agree with Clark about using the Dolce from Pilgerstorfer. I have used a #3.5 with the Debut. A #3 would work as well I think.
However, I agree with lydian, for someone new to the clarinet, I would recommend the Vandoren Juno reeds.
I think I used the Juno #2 reeds with the Fobes Debut when I first began.
Post Edited (2023-05-16 03:48)
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Author: spikey1973
Date: 2023-05-16 17:26
@ Robert, Lydian, kdk, Musikat
I was thinking (have not yet decided) about ordering a pilgerstorfer test pack of reeds. Both soft and medium. They have reeds in all/most there lines. from 2.0 to 3.5 (combined between the two packs). I have no experience with the Vandoren Juno's. I did start with a range blue's from 1,5 to 3,5. to try the differences between hardness.
With those I have found the experience, that the started rather fine. but once played for a few days, I like them less. I guess It needs proper balancing (looking into that). But did find the 2.5 hardness my most liked hardness of the blues so far but haven't tried the 3# yet. Also I have only one reed of each, so difference between the pieces of reed themselves could make also an big impact. Any I will look into the Juno's too, I have found them.. in one shop, but one shop is enough. I will also discuss with my future teacher.
Kind greats
Matthieu
Post Edited (2023-05-16 17:46)
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Author: Robert N.
Date: 2023-05-16 19:12
In terms of strength, I find the Pilgerstorfer Dolce #3 to be similar to a Vandoren Traditional # 2.5
I also find that Pilgerstorfers tend to be more consistent and tend to need less work. I do very little work on these reeds.
In terms of balancing them, I usually use:
1) a reed geek to get the bottom flat. Sandpaper would probably be fine for this
2) the flicking method to balance the strength on each side ( the method is described here: http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=490086&t=489927 )
3) On rare occasions I might use the reed geek for very minor work in other places on the reed. Other tools would work fine as well, I just happen to have a reed geek.
Of course there is a general feel of the different cane, as well as how the cane is cut and the reed is designed. I personally like the Dolces very much, but everyone has different preferences.
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Author: Ed
Date: 2023-05-17 03:46
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yet I would have said the Arias are easier-blowing (freer) and that there's more resistance in the Brios
That was my experience as well. For me, there was a bit more ring in the sound of the Aria reeds
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Author: spikey1973
Date: 2023-05-25 16:54
Today my fobes mouthpiece arrived.
ofcourse I tried it instantly with the reeds supplied by Clark and the combination works well, big improvement!!
Still going to mix and match mouthpieces and reeds. Just to get the feel of things.
ButI am happy with the upgrade.
Next step, get the attention of the teacher again, as I haven't heared from him/her jet :D
Kind greats
Matthieu
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Author: nellsonic
Date: 2023-05-26 00:59
spikey1973 wrote:
> Still going to mix and match mouthpieces and reeds. Just to get
> the feel of things.
This will very likely be counterproductive. Keep your set up consistent for some time once it works. There are so mamy variables in learning to play a clarinet. Keeping constants is crucial to working them out.
Anders
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Author: spikey1973
Date: 2023-05-26 10:51
@nellsonic
Well that is the intention, but to do so, I need to deside what to keep constant, so therefor I will give each possibility a short go, for the general feel and then keep it constant for learning getting familiar with the other variables.
Kind greats
Matthieu
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