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Author: SunnyDaze
Date: 2023-04-20 21:07
Hi,
I wondered if anybody might know of music that is good to play when the player is properly cheesed off and wants to make a loud angry noise to get it off their chest?
Somewhere between about grade 2 and 4.
All violin music and a lot of piano music is good for this but I've never found anything like this for the clarinet.
Thanks,
Jen
#WhoIsNotHavingARelaxingDay
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Author: Tom H
Date: 2023-04-20 21:30
I played the transcription of the Bach Chaconne for violin once (on youtube). But I wasn't angry at the time. How about Flight of the Bumble Bee?
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Post Edited (2023-04-20 21:32)
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2023-04-20 21:37
Ya know, it’s been said particularly of the wind quintet that Nielsen was portraying the personalities of the players for whom he wrote that music. Once I put that together (assuming that clarinet player was a grumpy guy) I much better understood the concerto for clarinet. Probably not the level you’re looking for but most angry indeed.
…………Paul Aviles
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Author: davidjsc
Date: 2023-04-21 00:11
I've learnt to play some Rammstein for my bass clarinet - namely Dicke Titten (because of the polka intro).
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~~ Alto Clarinet; Bass Clarinet; B-flat and C Boehm Clarinets; Albert C Clarinet; Oboe ~~
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Author: David H. Kinder
Date: 2023-04-21 03:43
I guess it depends on if the person who is making you upset is there? Just use the mouthpiece as a duck call and you can peeve them off that way? :D
Getting back into playing after 20 years.
Ridenour AureA Bb clarinet
Ridenour Homage mouthpiece
Rovner Versa ligature
Vandoren V12 #3 - #3.5 reeds
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Author: Tom H
Date: 2023-04-21 06:06
Paul, I think I read that the clarinetist Nielsen composed it for was bi-polar? Have you heard that? That may be why there is the snare part and why the moods change so quickly?
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tomheimer.ampbk.com/ Sheet Music Plus item A0.1001315, Musicnotes product no. MB0000649.
Boreal Ballad for unaccompanied clarinet-Sheet Music Plus item A0.1001314.
Musicnotes product no. MNO287475
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Author: SunnyDaze
Date: 2023-04-21 06:34
Thanks for all these great suggestions. I especially love the idea of just using the mp as a repellant. It's tempting.
I've noticed that if I play the highest altissimo note in the front hallway of my house, then dogs passing in street outside look round at me and flinch. Maybe the altissimo is the clarinet's inner-violin?
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Author: Hank Lehrer
Date: 2023-04-21 08:01
Hi All,
My wife and I live in a neat golf community where there are a lot of dogs being walked in the morning. Lynne and I are separated from the street by a nice pond. We have a 20 ft window wall with deck. The day usually begins with us having our coffee, watching the bird feeders, and waving to the neighbors.
Very soon, I plan to get a mouthpiece and reed and then duck down and blow a high altissimo note as a dog with owner is going by.
My interest is to see if any dogs respond, if they bark, and are they a recognized breed. I will not be close enough to make a gender ID.
I shall report back.
HRL
PS I know that Buster, a Jack Russell, who lives across the street is deaf so when his owner goes by, maybe I'll just see if she barks.
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Author: SunnyDaze
Date: 2023-04-21 11:46
Hi Hank,
That sounds like excellent fun.
It's a pedigree Labrador that flinches at my top note. The highest I have on my fingering chart is C7 so it must be something around there.
Jen
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Author: donald
Date: 2023-04-21 11:54
The "Aage Oxenvad was bipolar" thing is based on the most lame scholarship, and teenage amateur psychology, so PLEASE don't repeat it here. There is no evidence at all that he suffered from a bipolar disorder, and plenty of evidence that he wasn't. This "theory" gets bandied around by a few names who need a good story for their masterclasses.
If you try researching it, you find almost nothing except "so and so said this at such and such university". The Ashkenazy boy spouted this when he visited NZ around 2008 and now every 2nd clarinet player in NZ thinks it's some kind of stunning revelation that will help them play the Nielsen concerto better.
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Author: Hurstfarm
Date: 2023-04-23 01:58
Not grade 2-4, but the Furioso (3rd movement) of the Arnold Sonatina is a good bet if you can team up with a similarly angry pianist!
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Author: Tom H
Date: 2023-04-23 06:09
donald -- Sorry, didn't mean to offend. I did ask if anyone had heard of that as I just read it somewhere (apparently what I read was incorrect).
The Most Advanced Clarinet Book--
tomheimer.ampbk.com/ Sheet Music Plus item A0.1001315, Musicnotes product no. MB0000649.
Boreal Ballad for unaccompanied clarinet-Sheet Music Plus item A0.1001314.
Musicnotes product no. MNO287475
Post Edited (2023-04-23 06:10)
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Author: SunnyDaze
Date: 2023-04-24 20:15
Thanks for the offer :-) I converted it through screenshot to pdf, to photoscore ultimate to Dorico and it was fairly soothing. Clarinets do seem to be very soothing generally.
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Author: Julian ibiza
Date: 2023-04-24 21:50
I believe that studies regarding anger management nowadays tend towards the idea that engaging in anger venting exercises tend to actually reenforce the anger tendencies . Presumably because you are " going with that energy " , so to speak . Given that music and just individual notes have amazing powers over mood , I would have thought playing something soothing and centering would be the way to go . Just the continuos drone of a singly not is a very powerful thing energetically.
Julian Griffiths
Tel. 34 696 798 853
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Author: kilo
Date: 2023-04-25 12:52
How about Eric Dolphy's bass clarinet solo on "Aggression" – starts around 5:26?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gi_O3XBvMTE
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Author: Philip Caron
Date: 2023-04-25 16:42
Hi Julian. Clarinetists recognize that practice ingrains. Letting anger run is like that. Same with depression.
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Author: Philip Caron
Date: 2023-04-25 16:54
Hi SunnyDaze. For several decades I collected classical piano recordings, and I pursued a very unsystematic study comparing interpretations. One startling lesson came from a French pianist's playing of Beethoven's Waldstein, an overtly dramatic and sunny piece. I can't recall the pianist's name, now, but they managed to put a melancholy cast on the whole piece, and I found it actually worked for me, listening there that day, as though it was sunshine I was remembering well.
Maybe just take a piece of music and play it angry, whether it seems that way or not, and try to make musical sense doing so. See what if anything works.
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Author: Julian ibiza
Date: 2023-04-25 19:02
Hi Philip ,
Was definitely not advocating letting anger run , rather transforming it .
Transformation is is what moods do anyway, but the question is how best to achieve that with unpleasant moods as quickly as possible .
If being angry is like brandishing a loaded gun , then there are two ways to disarm it without causing damage .
1) you can fire it into the air ( venting )
2) you can learn how to eject the round from the chamber( drop it !)
While the first option is more likely to satisfy your anger in the moment, it also takes you a step closer to a relationship with anger resulting in violent or destructive dehavior in future .
I recall that when I was a small boy my stepfather would tell me to go find a stick and hit a tree . I liked trees so doing this made me feel confused and miserable and so in its way it did get rid of my anger . To give him due credit he did manage to cure me of most of my childhood anger by eventually leaving .
Ah!.....the trials of childhood . ( nostalgic sigh ! )
Julian Griffiths
Tel. 34 696 798 853
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Author: SunnyDaze
Date: 2023-04-25 20:55
I found someone playing scots fiddle music on a clarinet!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD8trGDog_s
I love Scots fiddle music for getting me energy up when I need to stand my ground, and for safely burning off the last of it when the situation is over.
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