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Author: vrufino
Date: 2023-04-03 02:06
Since there are several models of Silverstein ligs, do you know if more are better than fewer? Are 5 and 6 cords better than 4? Certainly a price difference.
Dr. Vincent J. Rufino
Professor of clarinet and saxophone
St. Elizabeth University
Morristown, NJ
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Author: SecondTry
Date: 2023-04-03 03:33
Hi Dr. Rufino:
Allow my to suggest that blind play tests between Silverstein ligature's of various numbers of cord wraps amounts, even holding all else constant, may not yield uniform agreement among players, anymore than if it did, might all such players be willing to pay the extra amount if consensus was indeed found between such wraps and playability.
With BK & Sons, Silverstein's parent company in Ridgefield, maybe you can take the 40 minute drive there and try all the models out to form your own opinion.
Now, that question addressed, and speaking of opinion, please allow me mine.
Ligatures are the things we spend the most amount of money on for the least results. Sure, the highest end players might enjoy some marginal improvement from a $300 ligature, but for me--and others disagree and are entitled to--Silverstein has pushed beyond reasonable limits of price and performance.
Think about this. You have to apply for the right to spend an unpublished sum to own their Maestro ligature. So, I'm to consider myself lucky if they extend me the right to pay, what, $400 for their newest gizmo that 1 year from now will be replaced by their newest, "latest and greatest" invention?
I wish Kal (Opperman) was alive to see this. He'd so lose his temper that he die all over again as he played recordings of double lip players like Cahuzac, and Weber, etc. and asked how they sounded better than players of today with such equipment; his rhetorical answer being their embouchure.
Sorry, off soap box. You asked about number of wraps, and I "wrapped."
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Author: lydian
Date: 2023-04-03 03:52
From a physics perspective, more is better for evenly distributing force. Practically, probably doesn't make any sonic difference.
So now you, a Doctor of Music, has the opinions of two anonymous strangers on the internet who are beginning clarinet players. Hope that helps?
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Author: SecondTry
Date: 2023-04-03 04:21
lydian wrote:
> From a physics perspective, more is better for evenly
> distributing force. Practically, probably doesn't make any
> sonic difference.
>
> So now you, a Doctor of Music, has the opinions of two
> anonymous strangers on the internet who are beginning clarinet
> players. Hope that helps?
I’ve been playing 50 years, only new to double lip.
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2023-04-03 05:55
I have four of them, gold and silver of T-Frame and the A-Frame.
My favorite while still on cane reeds was the basic silver T-Frame. You get all the benefit of the "unyielding" cables but enough area NOT covered by them to have the firmness yet allow the reed to vibrate on its own too.
Just my opinion.
The newest gizm that I saw is the titanium version with "rocking horse" shaped support for the A-Frame model. I can see where that would be beneficial for that design.
..............Paul Aviles
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Author: lydian
Date: 2023-04-05 00:48
SecondTry wrote:
> I’ve been playing 50 years
Sorry, confused you with someone else.
I'm right behind you, coming up on 50 years on woodwinds, but new to clarinet. Same principles apply though, regarding ligatures, etc.
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Author: bmcgar ★2017
Date: 2023-04-05 01:03
Just a joke! Not directed to anyone here!
But in my own profession, I've met many who have touted the number of years they've being doing what they do.
In many cases, I have to stifle the response, "So you've been doing this badly for all those years?"
Sorry. Couldn't resist. I'm old and I'm crotchety.
B.
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