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 other extended scale studies
Author: Brian Peterson 
Date:   2022-08-26 06:19

Baermann op 63 will always be the holy grail of extended scale studies but I'm looking to add a little variety into my practice routine. Any other recommendations? Thanks

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 Re: other extended scale studies
Author: Paul Aviles 
Date:   2022-08-26 14:15

I think the harmonic movement of the "Kroepsch 416 Daily Studies for Clarinet Book III and Book IV" make them just as important.




..............Paul Aviles



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 Re: other extended scale studies
Author: seabreeze 
Date:   2022-08-26 18:23

Rudolph Jettel Clarinet Method, book 2, is mostly a scale book with many patterns not found in Baerman and a more challenging coverage of altissimo scales and intervals.

Jost Michaels Supplementary Scale Systems covers altered scales and very intricate combinations of chord and interval patterns.

Both of these advanced German books are available from Van Cott Music. Both require dogged persistence to work through and both will markedly increase technique if regularly and accurately practiced. If you're looking for challenging and varied etudes (in addition to the scales) to practice, see Book 3 of the R. Jettel method. While still tonal, these break out of the familiar patterns of Classical and Romantic style. Just as JeanJean's studies opened up the musical materials of French Impressionism, Jettel's introduce elements of chromaticism and extended tonality practices found in R. Strauss, Reger, Hindemith, and other early modern German composers.



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 Re: other extended scale studies
Author: Ken Lagace 
Date:   2022-08-29 19:07

If the target is to get the scales into your fingers, I invented an exercise many years ago that does the trick.

Make up a 3,4,5,6,?, note melody and play it in the key of 'E' starting on low E. then up a half step in F, F# etc, etc, as high as you want to go. Then back down in half steps. Start with simple combinations.
Never repeat a tune, always make up a new one, or play different phrases from well-known melodies.
You will be amazed how well the keys feel natural after a while, and surprised how some combinations happen that aren’t in any study books.

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 Re: other extended scale studies
Author: Paul Aviles 
Date:   2022-08-29 20:15

Hey Ken,


My thought (as a naturally poor reader) is that this is a great idea for playing by ear, but it may not be as helpful when it comes to sight-reading.




………….Paul Aviles



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 Re: other extended scale studies
Author: Ken Lagace 
Date:   2022-08-29 20:23

Paul, I don't understand. If you are in a key, the key will be in your fingers. Sight reading will be more rhythm and the other elements. The key is dialed in already.

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 Re: other extended scale studies
Author: Paul Aviles 
Date:   2022-08-29 21:18

For me, I require to see and think the note names as I go along to read correctly. I played by ear through high school and that left a VERY hard road for me. Doing your exercise (by ear alone) would be super easy, but it would only reinforce my bad habits. Just tossing that out there for anyone else who may have a similar deficiency.



………Paul Aviles



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 Re: other extended scale studies
Author: SecondTry 
Date:   2022-08-29 23:17

Brian Peterson wrote:

> Baermann op 63 will always be the holy grail of extended scale
> studies but I'm looking to add a little variety into my
> practice routine. Any other recommendations? Thanks


Brian, this may not be what your after, but if you want variety this is your book.

It's author, Tom Heimer, a member here, introduces the player to near random note sequences that are the ultimate extension of any scale, to the point that it's not scales.

But in the player's inability to much memorize, concentration on the notes ahead must be given the utmost attention, as there are no melodic ques.

IMHO it makes sight reading scales with predictable patterns seem much easier,: I would hope one of the book's intentions.

I make zero $ with anyone's purchase. :)

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 Re: other extended scale studies
Author: Fuzzy 
Date:   2022-08-29 23:24

Ken,

I really appreciate your suggestion. Coming from a reading background myself, I found roadblocks that were tough for me to get around.

Many issues I had weren't exactly technical issues with fingerings, embouchure, or the myriad of other things we usually see discussed on the bboard - though the same "fixes" were suggested by my instructor(s) (play the pattern slowly/fingerings/scales/thirds). My issues were, instead, the result of a glitch in my thinking. My thoughts would get all flustered for a millisecond or two, and then a few milliseconds later my fingers, voicing, embouchure, etc. would expose the flustered thought. Being told to practice a pattern slowly was of no help whatsoever, nor were any of the other often-quoted "solutions." Rarely, such suggestions would help with that one exact item that one time I encountered it, but it never fixed the underlying problem.

I don't know why I had the mental roadblocks I did, but getting away from the printed page - playing in various keys and hearing the relationships between the notes (without the visual cues) really helped me get past most of those roadblocks and helped me to think in context of keys and direction (of melody/harmony). It helped me "know my way around" the instrument much better too.

Seabreeze mentioned "5 golden arpeggios" in another thread. I think that idea is a great one too, as it helps train the ears/fingers to become comfortable with the types of intervals that we're surrounded by when playing music today.

Not everyone has the mental blocks I did (perhaps no one does), but if they do - I'd strongly recommend trying your suggestion (and seabreeze's).

Thanks,
Fuzzy
;^)>>>

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 Re: other extended scale studies
Author: seabreeze 
Date:   2022-08-30 01:25

Here's the 5 Golden Arpeggios Fuzzy mentioned. Jazz sax players have found it to be a useful compendium of common harmonic patterns and a technical workout when played in all keys. And it can be just as useful to clarinetists, regardless of their musical orientations. https://youtube.com/results?search_query=5+golden+arpeggio. (Top hit).



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 Re: other extended scale studies
Author: Tom H 
Date:   2022-08-30 05:41

Stark has a book or two with mostly arpeggios but scales as well.

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 Re: other extended scale studies
Author: SunnyDaze 
Date:   2022-08-30 10:46

I love the idea of bring together Ken's idea with the traditional method of playing scales from paper. I reckon that together those two methods would really make the system fly.

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