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 Re: Facial-Flex for toning Orbicularis oris muscle
Author: Paul Aviles 
Date:   2022-05-24 22:08

Yeah Karl, I kinda confused myself there. I was going for a couple of things. Most directly about embouchure, FOR ME, the buccinators are what holds the sides in and rounds out the embouchure (for any length of time). It is NOT the lip muscles in isolation that create the support. HOWEVER, I played just fine puffing out my cheeks to the extreme. I still feel that to have the control over the long term it is the cheeks that "hold us in."


The other point I was clumsily making is that we need to create a fair amount of air pressure in our oral cavity to create a resonant sound. Dizzy graphically shows us just how much air pressure in the oral cavity goes into a good wind instrument sound. There was a post from someone just starting clarinet who illustrates clearly the sound you get NOT using enough air pressure.


As for the "hurting" issue. Whatever muscle is being strained, the action causing that must be stopped because it is counterproductive. But I think that the problem is that there is too much effort (thought?) being placed on the "up and down" action (causing possible leaking issues from the corners?). Then even more effort has to placed on the sides and you wind up doing a Lowenstern exercise.






...............Paul Aviles
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