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Author: mozartklar
Date: 2022-03-17 00:51
Does anyone have any experiences with Wes Rice's Delrin barrels and Brad Behn's EVO rod rubber barrels? I am curious to know if anyone here has tried them and their pros and cons.
Thank you.
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Author: jim sclater
Date: 2022-03-17 05:42
I have an EVO barrel I use sometimes on my Yamaha CSVR. I find it makes the response slightly smoother; the sound seems just a bit brighter.
jsclater@comcast.net
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Author: Maestro_6
Date: 2022-03-17 09:43
I've actually tried both of those models and have owned one of the Rice Delrin barrels for a couple of years. The Behn EVO is definitely "zingy," but definitely a bit on the bright side. The response is precise and easy. The Rice barrels have a bit more balance to the sound and feel, but I've found them inflexible the more I played it. I'd actually recommend trying out some of the Pereira 3D barrels. They have a very nice synthetic barrel that's about a third of the price for either of the barrels in question and is a remarkable player for said price, but I liked their wood-composite options even more.
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Author: ruben
Date: 2022-03-17 11:11
I have found that they warm up too fast and too much and thus make you play sharp.
rubengreenbergparisfrance@gmail.com
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Author: Marnix van den Berg
Date: 2022-03-17 12:52
I use a Perreira 3d Barrel in synthetic wood for my E-flat and it plays just as well as my original wooden barrel. I have not noticed it warming up quicker or playing sharper.
That said I did order a slightly longer barrel because the standard Tosca E-flat barrels were too short for my taste/choice of mouthpiece.
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Author: Ed
Date: 2022-03-17 23:35
I don't have any comment on the barrels mentioned by the OP. The thing that would keep me off the 3D barrels is that I find them really unattractive. That may make me a shallow person! ;-)
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Author: Maestro_6
Date: 2022-03-18 01:34
To each their own, I suppose! I find the 3D barrels very sleek and attractive, actually. I also agree with Marnix van den Berg that the pitch stays consistent while playing with the Pereira equipment.
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2022-03-18 02:24
I’m sorry if this strays too far off topic, but we are discussing Pereira 3D. Their ligatures are amongst the best for resonance and response (particularly used with Legere). Of course to really get them to sing you MUST leave them quite loose. There is no option to switch (or swab) at the mouthpiece. You must do these things taking off the mouthpiece WITH the barrel.
Believe me, a small sacrifice.
……………..Paul Aviles
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Author: anonrob
Date: 2022-03-18 17:51
I have used a Scott Delrin barrel for years and haven't had any sense that it warmed up that much faster or slower than the wood ones.
Just my 2 cents.
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Author: m1964
Date: 2022-03-18 23:23
Marnix van den Berg wrote:
"I use a Perreira 3d Barrel in synthetic wood for my E-flat and it plays just as well as my original wooden barrel. I have not noticed it warming up quicker or playing sharper.
That said I did order a slightly longer barrel because the standard Tosca E-flat barrels were too short for my taste/choice of mouthpiece."
Was there any reason you did not go with an original Buffet barrel?
Or was it simply unavailable for your Toska in the length you needed?
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Author: Marnix van den Berg
Date: 2022-03-19 14:31
m1964 wrote:
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> Was there any reason you did not go with an original Buffet
> barrel?
> Or was it simply unavailable for your Toska in the length you
> needed?
Price and convenience mostly. Trying out the Perreira was vastly cheaper/quicker than ordering a longer Tosca barrel.
Post Edited (2022-03-21 13:38)
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Author: HANGARDUDE
Date: 2022-03-19 17:41
I haven't tried either Wes Rice's delrin barrels(but have tried his grenadilla barrel which was alright) or any of Brad Behn's EVO barrels, but I HAVE tried(and in fact own) Clark Fobes' Delrin aka HDP barrels as well as his more popular grenadilla/blackwood versions(both ringed & ringless, so a good comparison can be made.
The most obvious pro is that these synthetic barrels won't warp, and with some makers they are cheaper than their wood versions(such as Clark Fobes).
The possible downside is that the delrin material is less compatible with some instruments in terms of tone and response(less complex overtones and an altered feel).
That said, I mentioned "possible" because it isn't always the case- some are equally compatible with certain instruments as their wood versions, and for some the delrin versions actually sound better. When I was still playing on Buffet RC Prestiges I greatly preferred the grenadilla versions of Clark Fobes' barrels, but since I've switched to Selmer Présences I've found that his delrin version sounded noticeably better and felt more comfortable than his wood versions on these Selmer horns(not sure if the same is true for the Privilege which also takes same barrel lengths as the Présence as well as Buffet clarinets). In other words, YMMV.
Josh
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Author: hartt
Date: 2022-03-19 19:50
I have used all four (4) of Brad's barrels and a few other makers (which I no longer own).
logically, the thinner the barrel walls / less material, the brighter the sound.
I found this true with Brad's 2 style of FIXED barrels......regular shape and hourglass shape (brighter)
Further, Brad's adjustable barrels........one style has an aluminum adjustment ring and the other, a hard rubber ring (same material as barrel body).
I found the former, aluminum ring model, to sound brighter
I have settled on Brad's adjustable barrels with hard rubber ring (and more economical )
Dennis
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