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 Older Music Appreciation
Author: EbClarinet 
Date:   2022-02-17 07:30

I grew up in the 1970s. Back then cartoons were educational, all the way into the early 80s. I on't know about before then, but that's where those of you that are older than me can chime in.

To make a long story short, have you older players realize that back then the cartoons were playing serious classical orchestra pieces?

On the Smurfs (80s), I've heard the complete "Pictures At An Exhibition." When I was in college and we played this for TMEA, I remembered that I' hear it before as a child. I've heard Copeland and many other classical pieces such as "Barbe Of Seville" and other notables.

Is this just an American thing on broadcast TV or is this world wide? I' love to Rea your thoughts and experiences about this.

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 Re: Older Music Appreciation
Author: SunnyDaze 
Date:   2022-02-19 21:25

Hi,

I only go back to the 70s too, but I'm in the UK and also lived in Paris so I can give you a bit of international perspective.

In the UK, the orchestral music that I remember from being a pre-schooler came mainly from a show called "The Flumps". In it there is a character who is the grandpa and is devoted to his "flumpet" which is a kind of uncoiled brass instrument. I'm not sure what a flumpet is in the real world but you can see it in this clip:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AXu3D6cMJk&t=1s

Lots of the episodes centre around the Grandpa's total enjoyment of his flumpet, and the fact that he just plays whatever notes on it he wants to, with no concern about being impressive, or whether anyone is listening, or anything like that.

The theme music also was a lovely piece of orchestral music that I think is probably oboe and trombone, but that I have now rearranged to be played on clarinet and french horn by my son and myself. It's a really lovely tune. This is it here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQGPC6W7eSw

When I'm teaching my son anything about music, I always say to him that there is no need to be a great performer or to be "excellent" or "best", but just that it is a good idea to end up like Grandpa Flumpet.

There was also a series of story magazines produced for children in the UK in the 80s that came with cassettes which had the read-aloud version of the story. They had a lot of proper classical orchestral music in them and I enjoyed them a lot. They are all on youtube now like this here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObrN9HtzpG8&t=34s
The William Tell overture was a particularly big part of it. You can hear it here at about 6:48: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpGZM3Kf1yw

In paris, I remember we had a tv show called Albator which had very striking music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipMRtixuQkI

In those days in Paris the emphasis seemed to be on really good singers who I think possibly specialised in singing for the credits at the start and end of children's tv. There were some of them that I was aware of as people in their own right, rather than just a voice. I knew some of their names, even though I was only aged 5 to 8 years old.

One of the most popular shows was Bouba: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-DLUoa2svE and there was another called Kiki that was sufficiently popular that I actually saved up and bought the short play record of the song. I can't remember the people's names right now, but I think I would know them if I saw them.

I don't know much about tv further back but I know my parents' generation watched Bill and Ben the flowerpot men and muffin the mule in the 1950s in the UK.

Music was prominent in Muffin the Mule, but I don't think there was any in Bill and Ben the flowerpot men.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fud_pQdIgg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6zNwBTLSWU&t=220s

The other thing that we have in the UK, which has been going forever, is the proms concerts at the Royal Albert Hall. They were very carefully filmed with lots of close-ups on the fingers of the musicians. In the 1990s, I learned to play the violin by watching the close-ups of the violinists fingers over and over again on my Betamax video tape recordings. They were very good indeed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaemq2Ck6mI&t=591s

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 Re: Older Music Appreciation
Author: SunnyDaze 
Date:   2022-02-19 21:42

There was also Mr Benn, which is now the backbone of the ABRSM clarinet curriculum, appearing in the Gold Music Medal and also Grades 3 and 4.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MF0qLIyDaGI

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