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Author: Carcamalisio
Date: 2021-05-03 22:22
Hi! Is there any Bass Clarinetist who could recommend a mouthpiece that works really well with Legere Reeds? (euro cut)
I'm in the market for a new Bass mp, and I play Backun CG with legere on the Bb, and Pomarico wizard with legere on the Eb, so I thought it would be the best option, to match my current setups on the other horns.
Has anyone tried the Backun Hawkins CG Bass MP with legere? I'm interested in this model.
Thanks!
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Author: Erez Katz
Date: 2021-05-03 23:07
This is a very subjective question, and sample-to-sample variation can play I big part here. Try a few and pick the one that works best for you. What's written on it does not matter much. I think a mouthpiece that works well for you, would work well regardless if you use a cane or Legere reed, especially on the Bass Clarinet.
Personally, I alternate between a Selmer C** and a Vandoren B50. Both are fine mouthpieces that match my way of playing and my sound concept.
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Author: jeig
Date: 2021-05-04 05:58
For me the mouthpieces (both Bb and Bass) by Ramon Wodkowski work great with Legere reeds.
I know it is a different approach, but if you really want to use synthetic reeds, you should consider thinking of the reeds as the constant and then try to find a mouthpiece that complements the synthetic reeds.
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Author: super20dan
Date: 2021-05-04 06:06
i use the vandoreen b46 and always use either bari or legre synth reeds. results are amazing . i would never thing of going back to cane
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Author: Carcamalisio
Date: 2021-05-04 07:26
super20dan wrote:
> i use the vandoreen b46 and always use either bari or legre
> synth reeds. results are amazing . i would never thing of going
> back to cane
What strength do you use for the b46?
Post Edited (2021-05-04 07:26)
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Author: alanporter
Date: 2021-05-04 07:36
Oh dear, I have tried Vandoren, Selmer, Fobes, reed mouthpieces on on my bass. The best I have ended up with is the cheapest I have ever found, the George Bundy number 3 hard rubber mouthpiece. Do I need to hide my face in shame ?
Alan.
tiaroa@shaw.ca
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Author: Hank Lehrer
Date: 2021-05-04 17:07
Alan,
You are not alone. I have a Bundy 3 but have gone up one step to older Selmer C* MPs. I actually four; one was refaced by Ramon Wodkowsky, two by David McClure that have been give the S2 facing (a Matson reface) that Michael Lowenstern recommends, and finally a virgin C* that plays very well.
I use Legere' reeds exclusively. Anywhere from a 2 to 3 from a collection of Classic, Tenor studio Cut, and European Cut reeds of various periods. I have a Selmer Model 65 and a very fine Low C bass from Meridian Winds (Asian-made) which is played only when I need the lower notes.
I have all sorts of ligatures to try but seem to always come back to a Harrison and VD Optimum.
Best,
HRL
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Author: sdr
Date: 2021-05-04 17:27
I have been having really good luck with Walter Grabner's new "White Velvet" MP and the Legere reeds, both Signature and European cut but with 1/4 strength heavier with the Euro cut.
-sdr
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Author: Hurstfarm
Date: 2021-05-04 20:03
The problem is, you’ll find a confusingly long list of preferred options that work for different people! It’s a very personal thing, but FWIW, for Legere (European Cut 2.75 or 2.5) I’ve found a Vandoren BD5 works very well. For cane reeds I’ve been using Grabners - a Lawrie Bloom, and more recently mainly a Virtuoso. For me, the BD5 gives a richer and more consistent “cane-like” sound.
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Author: kilo
Date: 2021-05-05 12:47
There's just no "one size fits all". It takes a while to match the reed and mouthpiece but it's worth the search — once you dial in right combination you can play several of them in rotation, right out of the box, and they'll last six months to a year, depending of course, on how you much you use them. I like to keep one new one unused and set aside — if I begin to feel that my stock of reeds is getting tired I can quickly compare their response to the unplayed one and replace them if needed.
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Author: David Spiegelthal ★2017
Date: 2021-05-07 05:55
I have dozens of excellent mouthpieces, but don't like Legere reeds on any of them. I'm one of those dinosaurs for whom it's cane, or nothing.
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Author: super20dan
Date: 2021-05-07 06:39
i got spoiled by plasticover reeds for the last 20 years on sax. i am all in on synthetics now.
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Author: Ed
Date: 2021-05-07 18:57
Quote:
I have dozens of excellent mouthpieces, but don't like Legere reeds on any of them. I'm one of those dinosaurs for whom it's cane, or nothing.
I agree. I have tried the Legeres a number of times, different cuts, different strengths, different ligatures (including those mentioned in threads here) and still find that cane works much better for me and is much easier to achieve the results I want.
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2021-05-07 20:16
Bass clarinet is unique and so is the Legere experience with them. In the past, the synthetic that worked best for me was the FibraCell. More recently, as only an occasional bass player, someone on this Board got me to successfully use the Legere Studio tenor sax reeds. Since that use was a show were I had to grab the horn fast after it sat for an hour, the Studio Cut was just fine.
I have not tried the bass European Cut (no shows right now) but I would assume it is pretty darn good. In a side by side battle a good, well broken in cane Reed will be a better performer, but not by that much. Honestly, any mouthpiece that works great for you will work great with Legere. Don't believe the hype from makers claiming better compatibility. They are just reading the market tea leaves.
...............Paul Aviles
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Author: kilo
Date: 2021-05-07 20:57
The thing I really like about the European Cut is the slight increase in the width of the reed. I haven't played bass all my life but I suspect that bass clarinet reeds and tenor sax reeds had easily detectable differences fifty years ago but either one might substitute in a pinch. Some sort of convergent evolution occurred along the way and now it's not unusual to find bass clarinetists using tenor sax reeds and even a few tenormen who like bass clarinet reeds. Anyway, the wider European Cut fits perfectly on the table of my old Fobes SF and the curve of the tip fits better as well. I prefer the American Cut tenor sax reeds on my Grabner White Velvet, however.
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