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Author: Dan Oberlin ★2017
Date: 2020-12-20 00:07
Does anyone have experience with this software? I'm interested in learning enough about it to record, say, clarinet quartets one part at a time. I've heard that a lot of students at music schools are using Reaper to do this sort of thing.
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Author: papergates
Date: 2020-12-20 02:17
It's good. I've been using it for a few years. It does pretty much everything the fancy expensive software does, and you don't have to pay for it unless you really want to. You wouldn't see the limitations unless you were doing really intricate pop production.
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Author: Chris_C ★2017
Date: 2020-12-20 02:48
For recording something as simple as a clarinet quartet track by track, you might also consider Audacity - it's free and does the job well. The editing functions wouldn't handle a 32-track heavy metal band with complex repeats and effects, but for 4-8 tracks with only small effects (replacing mistakes on one track with correct playing on another, adjusting the balance between tracks and L-R, a bit of filtering, and maybe reverb) it's very good. The GUI is pretty straightforward too, so the learning curve for straightforward tasks is very quick.
Post Edited (2020-12-20 02:49)
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Author: donald
Date: 2020-12-20 03:12
Audacity CAN be tricky to get the parts to align, there are tutorials on YouTube explaining what to do but even with these steps taken people often have problems with multi track recording on Audacity not syncing properly...
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Author: clarnibass
Date: 2020-12-20 09:07
Reaper is very good and does almost everything other programs do. A few things are different but it doesn't matter unless you change from another program (I changed from Cubase to Reaper).
>> and you don't have to pay for it unless you really want to. <<
That's not exactly true. I mean, you could, but it's not free. You get some time to try it (maybe a couple of months, can't remember). Then you are supposed to buy it. They even tell you it's not free. Using it after the trial without paying is the same as using any software you are supposed to buy without paying. The difference is they don't block anything. You can use the program forever without buying it. It's much cheaper than most similar editing program.
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Author: nellsonic
Date: 2020-12-20 09:43
I use Audacity. I would agree with Chris_C's assessment. It's a great program to get started with and you can't beat the price. It is shareware and truly free.
Lining things up is not difficult at all, at least in my experience with straightforward projects. Once you get the right number dialed in for latency correction (an easy 5 min or less process) and discover the Time Shift tool it's pretty smooth sailing. Using a click track when appropriate makes it a breeze.
I get decent results recording clarinet, especially after playing around a bit with reverb, eq, and normalization parameters. It's whetted my appetite to learn more and probably spend too much money on mics in the near future. It's encouraged me to record more and my playing has benefited, especially when I listen to the dry sound critically before altering it. It's an especially gratifying thing to get into during this time of not playing with others in person.
Anders
Post Edited (2020-12-22 12:20)
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Author: Niclas.e.gustafsson
Date: 2020-12-20 13:22
Reaper isnt free. Its 60usd. Its two guys doing most of the developement and they deserve the cash. Reaper is as good as Logic, Cubase, PT or Studio One. Better in some respects and worse in some. Like the rest.
Reaper CAN be harder to learn than the others since its ment to be very configurable. Many many settings and menues and submenues.
I work in studio one. For me its the best program. Easy to learn. Good manual and video tutorials. And the cheapest version is FREE. It handles what you need no problem. Then its upgradable in increments up til the pro version.
ProTools First is also free. So is Garageband if you use Mac computers or ios devices.
If you need any help at all feel free to contact me on klarinett@me.com. I’m a audio engineer and a former professional clarinetist.
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Author: Mojo
Date: 2020-12-21 17:50
Look on YouTube for Reaper Tutorials. Look for others too like Audacity and Cakewalk.
I have not used Reaper. I have used Audacity for a bunch of projects like this. I’m now learning Cakewalk. It is also free and appears to be a good gateway to using Melodyne which is not free but has amazing capabilities.
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Author: donald
Date: 2020-12-22 05:38
I have been very happy with Audacity EXCEPT for latency issues when multi tracking. I've spent a LOT of time trying to sort them out with little success (and time spent watching YouTube tutorials etc). This problem might be linked to the fact I'm on a Mac, with only 4g ram,but I did not experience these problems with Garageband (but I prefer the editing functions on Audacity, which is why I made the effort).
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Author: Chris_C ★2017
Date: 2020-12-22 14:53
Audacity latency on a PC depends to some extent on whether you select MME, DirectSound or WASAPI as the interface to the audio devices - experimentation is necessary.
Much more significant (and I assume this also applies to Macs) is to make sure the file location (both specific to your current project and the location for temporary files - defined in Settings) is a local disk; I nce tried it with a network disk and the latency is then driven by network performance, so will probably be unacceptable. I currently use a local SSD and have no problems.
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Author: gwie
Date: 2020-12-23 11:08
I've used Reaper for quite some time, and for the majority of projects that musicians working at home would produce, it is more than sufficient. It's a bargain for a well-developed piece of software, and they have a temporary license free for everyone to use until the end of January 202.
I'm running their ARM beta version on my bottom end MacBook Air M1, and have had no issues with my Spitfire Audio plugins, nor live recording with my hardware interfaces, with a mix of 20-25 live and software tracks simultaneously.
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Author: Niclas.e.gustafsson
Date: 2020-12-23 14:09
Sorry to hijack the thread.
Gwir: what libraries do you run and, if its the bbc pro by any chance, is the woodwinds any good?
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Author: StephenWillifordComp
Date: 2020-12-24 02:16
I've used reaper for a few years now, and I love working with it. My inputs have had issues at times, but the software itself is second to none for the price in my opinion. Easy to use once you figure it out, highly recommend!
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Author: gwie
Date: 2020-12-27 07:36
For BBCSO Professional, the winds are all quite good. I'm not totally convinced with the clarinet sound at times, which has too much treble in the sound for my tastes. The flute, oboe, and bassoon samples are quite excellent, although it does take practice with any MIDI controller to get the behavior of the engine to better align with what one would expect from a live player. The piccolo is particularly nice! For those who want to work directly part-by-part, it's a wonderful library. The only instrument I don't love is the French Horn, in which the two layers (could use at least one more layer in the mix) and the style of instruments the players use gets a bit brassy too quickly. If I'm not plugged into my Thunderbolt Dock where the SSD that has the full library (600+ GB) is available, I have the Core version (23 GB) installed on the local SSD.
I'm looking for some new material with more "pre-baked" mixes to do rapid sketching with, so in January when their 40% education discount hits, I'll be using Orchestral Tools: Berlin Inspire 1+2. I tried out their 2 euro French Horn instrument and it's absolutely delightful.
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