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Author: christopher kohl
Date: 2020-08-22 05:18
I recently started playing on a Yamaha SEVR, after decades of using a CT and 10G. I really like it, it's a really good horn. Normally, I play on Vandoren 5JB and M13 mouthpieces. I live in a very hot, muggy place whether inside or outdoors, and have used Selmer 66mm. barrels, which still require me to pull quite a bit at both joints.
With the new Yamaha, at consistently 78 degreees and 50% humidity indoors (I've only been breaking it in, and there's no work in the Corona Era)with the horn pushed all the way in, it plays pretty consistently at 20 cents sharp across much of the scale.
Does anyone have any advice about different barrels and/or how the mouthpieces affect this? Yamaha doesn't make a 68mm. barrel, and I've seen some posts here saying that the original equipment may work better than after market barrels like Fobes' or Backun's.
Thanks!
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2020-08-22 06:39
I'm pretty relaxed about the idea of third party barrels because the length of the bore (once you subtract the the top and bottom sockets) is pretty short and I doubt a subtly larger or smaller bore will make much difference. Also while in school many years ago we regularly used ONE barrel to switch from A to Bb clarinet (the "A" Buffet has a narrower bore) and that was considered a pretty standard thing to do.
Backun (as I am told) will just hand you a bunch of barrels and you just play through them to find the one(s) that work best for you.
Bottom line would be to find the LENGTH that gets you in the zone you require to maintain pitch in your ensemble work.
That said, some players just arbitrarily buy barrels just to find different experiences and wind up introducing pitch irregularities (when bore tolerances or inverted vs non-inverted don't match well) that would not have been there if they stuck with their provided barrels.
Use a tuner, the manufacturer's return policy and have fun.
...............Paul Aviles
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Author: donald
Date: 2020-08-22 12:10
Wow, just wow. It's OK to be ignorant, just try not to spread it around if at all possible.
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2020-08-22 15:02
Donald,
Please define what does not fit with what you know to be correct.
Let me use my most current example.
I have recently obtained a used LeBlanc OpusII that came with a 66mm barrel and 65mm barrel. LeBlanc does not exist anymore and I am not able to order the necessary 62mm length that I require to get my tuning within acceptable parameters. What I have been using since purchase is a trusty Buffet Moening barrel that is 62mm long. I have also just received a custom delrin barrel from Clarinets by Copeland that plays WONDERFULLY.
I don't own particularly accurate calipers so I cannot say within thousandths of an inch if the bores are what LeBlanc would have approved. But I can tell you that both barrels function beautifully and allow me to have accurate intonation...........which is the point.
..................Paul Aviles
Post Edited (2020-08-22 15:21)
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Author: gatto
Date: 2020-08-22 17:30
You might try Aidoni barrels.
https://www.aidonimusic.com/
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2020-08-22 19:59
As always Donald, I appreciate your insight.
Still also waiting to hear from you whether Wurlitzer's only one option for German/Reform Boehm mouthpieces means they are now considered the same. But any constructive comment on the barrel question would be helpful.
.................Paul Aviles
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Author: Bob Bernardo
Date: 2020-08-24 09:51
Donald, whats wrong? Has this question been brought up before? I'm now into designing custom barrels and bells to set up clients horns, mainly intonation and the sound quality. I'm always interested in what and how fellow players are thinking because opinions surely matter. Thank you for your help. For the Yamaha CSVR and Buffet R13 horns I'm using a special reverse tapered barrel and a slightly longer bell.
christopher kohl - Strange, from my personal experiences with Yamaha's, which is a lot on the pro lines, the pro saxes and also the electronic midi sax, a 66mm barrel should tune low. I have several clients using the SEVR. I haven't played on your Vandoren 5JB, but I have played on several of the M13. A 65mm should tune right at 440. I surely can't understand the need for a 68mm. I have to wonder what is going on with your present barrel, or if the horn is somehow messed up? I use a set of CSVR clarinets for the pro gigs, but again I've played on the SEVR's and I like them a lot. It's a slightly bigger/larger bore, reminds me of your Selmer's so that should have been a really good match for you. Something isn't right here... You can always send me your setup to evaluate at no charge. If something is wrong I can give you some names to contact at Yamaha, including a guy who sometimes makes special barrels. Yamaha is about 45 minutes from me here is California, so I can also talk to them directly. It's hard to for the public to get inside and test the horns, but I get a lot of latitude being a Yamaha Artist.
Send an email if I can maybe help. For now can you include pics of your horn and also the barrel?
Designer of - Vintage 1940 Cicero Mouthpieces and the La Vecchia mouthpieces
Yamaha Artist 2015
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