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Author: Bill
Date: 2019-05-01 02:28
Collecting vintage clarinets has fired up my interest in their makers. Does anyone know of any books or histories of woodwind manufacturers from the mid-nineteenth century through to the early twentieth century?
My particular interest is:
(1) Johann Michl (Graslitz) -- more likely a retailer (?) than manufacturer
(2) A. Lecomte (Paris)
(3) More about Kohlert (in their many locations)
(4) D. Noblet before Leblanc (and even after Leblanc)
(5) Leon Trotte of Mantes AND Paris
(6) Albert(s) of Brussels
Bill Fogle
Ellsworth, Maine
(formerly Washington, DC)
Post Edited (2019-05-01 02:32)
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Author: Tony F
Date: 2019-05-01 03:13
Langwills New Index will be useful. Available through Amazon.
Tony F.
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Author: Bill
Date: 2019-05-01 03:39
My annual salary as a science editor is $71,000. Not enough to cover a copy of New Langwill. Would love a copy, tho.
Bill Fogle
Ellsworth, Maine
(formerly Washington, DC)
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2019-05-01 06:21
Bill wrote:
> My annual salary as a science editor is $71,000. Not enough to
> cover a copy of New Langwill. Would love a copy, tho.
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I was making less than that when I bought my copy ...
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Author: Tony F
Date: 2019-05-01 07:31
I'm on a pension and I bought a copy. The answers are out there, all you have to do is buy them.
T.
Tony F.
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Author: Bill
Date: 2019-05-01 10:13
OK! I'll try to find a copy. I really do want to know more about these firms.
Bill Fogle
Ellsworth, Maine
(formerly Washington, DC)
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Author: Plonk
Date: 2019-05-01 13:06
There's a used copy going for £49. 99 on Amazon UK - even with postage to US it might be cheaper.
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Author: MichaelW
Date: 2019-05-01 15:41
More up to date if not as comprehensive as New Langwill might be: Günter Dullat, Verzeichnis der Holz- und Metallblasinstrumentenmacher auf deutschsprachigem Gebiet..., ed. Hans Schneider 2010.
Under www.worldcat.org you'll find this title located in many US university and other libraries. Here in Germany at the moment it is for sale used for 48 Euro.
About Kohlert you can find lots of information here in Clarinet BB under „Kohlert“ or „Spiegelthal“, especially in an article by Paul and Janet Lein that was linked there somewhere:
Whatever Happened to the Kohlerts?
by Paul and Janet Lein
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Author: eac
Date: 2019-05-01 17:44
You might be able to request a copy through inter library loan at your public library. Obviously not as good as owning your own copy but you might get the information you want for free. I have been amazed and delighted at what my library can locate including sheet music.
Liz Leckey
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Author: Max S-D
Date: 2019-05-01 19:15
Yeah a quick search at the San Francisco Public Library reveals two copies of this book available to read right now. I'd be shocked if we were the only library with this available.
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Author: Bill
Date: 2019-05-01 23:49
I got a copy for $350+. The next highest price was $750, then into the four digits. Thanks, everyone, for the suggestions! I'm especially interested in more textual (i.e., story-like, historical narrative) histories of the old factories.
Kohlert is probably the most interesting story ...
Bill Fogle
Ellsworth, Maine
(formerly Washington, DC)
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Author: Dibbs
Date: 2019-05-02 12:47
Bill wrote:
> I got a copy for $350+. The next highest price was $750, then
> into the four digits. Thanks, everyone, for the suggestions!
> I'm especially interested in more textual (i.e., story-like,
> historical narrative) histories of the old factories.
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> Kohlert is probably the most interesting story ...
>
The New Langwill Index?
Cancel it. It's £60 from Tony Bingham, the publisher.
https://www.oldmusicalinstruments.co.uk/index.php
They also sell several other books you may be interested in.
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Author: SunnyDaze
Date: 2019-08-10 19:42
Hi Bill,
I have an E.J. Albert clarinet and would be very happy to compare notes online about them if it would help.
I used to work a lot with MGI in Bar Harbour, and have friends in Elsworth. I alwys think of them when I see your posts. It's nice to know that you are a science editor.
Sunny (actually Jennifer Deegan - Cambridge)
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Author: Bill
Date: 2019-08-11 05:53
Oh gosh! I had an E.J. Albert clarinet and, quite foolishly, I sold it. How I regret that! Mine had the extra long G# key on the top joint and the foreshortened register key (that butted up to the thumb ring). Gorgeous instrument! It even came with the original bill of sale from 1941.
I have been posting for many years on the Klarinet BB and only relocated to Ellsworth 2 years ago (from Washington, DC). So you are in Cambridge MA? Or ... U.K.? We love it here in Hancock County! Beautiful.
Enjoy your E.J. Albert! I have a simple system "E. Albert" that awaits restoration. Not sure I'll ever have the work done, though. Trying to teach myself to restore instruments. I have all the books. But, really, it's the kind of thing you need to see someone else do first ... you need a teacher.
Bill Fogle
Ellsworth, Maine
(formerly Washington, DC)
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Author: SunnyDaze
Date: 2019-08-11 15:18
Hi Bill,
That's lovely to know more about you. I am in Cambridge, UK. I was a bioinformatician collaborating with MGI for a long time, and that's how I came to know the area.
That's amazing that you had an E.J. Albert too. What a coincidence! I would love to restore mine too. I've had it repadded three times and I use a long barrel on it to bring it into tune, but it needs more work I think because the notes are not all in tune and I can't sound high B and C really reliably. It has a lovely pure sound though, more like an oboe than my modern clarinet.
I'd love to hear more about your restoration work if you have time to post about it on here. It's such an interesting subject and must surely become more important as the need to preserve the equatorial trees is becoming so urgent.
Best wishes,
Jennifer
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