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Author: derf5585
Date: 2018-12-17 20:04
Is it alright to play the clarinet and trumpet in the same timeframe or would it wreck your embrasure?
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2018-12-17 21:11
For YEARS I would have said the embouchures are too different to make things workable. But I have of late begun to feel that the clarinet embouchure is not nearly the sort of obsession that I had made it.
Yes, with the clarinet the lower lip sits rather dormant under the reed (not really but comparatively yes) and with trumpet you are manipulating the upper and lower lip in tandem to achieve the appropriately pitched "buzz" to get the right partial you need. If you asked about french horn I would say definitely NOT, but trumpet is not as critical.
You do need to consider that they are completely different in all respects and the work load on you would be considerable. There are doublers out there that play all the woodwinds to include flute, oboe, sax and clarinet, but crossing over to brass is particularly daunting.
I actually did try this a year into playing clarinet and thankfully gave it up. Though I don't encourage this idea, I wouldn't say it's impossible.
Now that I am thinking about it, I attended a small traveling circus in the wilds of Vermont many many years ago, and the "band" was one guy who played literally every instrument to include trumpet, sax flute and accordion. I thought he was as much a genius as I thought he was nuts.
................Paul Aviles
Post Edited (2018-12-17 23:18)
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Author: AAAClarinet
Date: 2018-12-18 05:43
In college I played first oboe in orchestra and concert band and also lead trumpet in jazz band. I could easily go from trumpet to oboe, but when going from oboe to trumpet my lips wouldn't vibrate the way I needed them to. If it works for you, go for it.
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Author: donald
Date: 2018-12-18 07:36
I've known of very fine clarinet teachers (at college level in USA) who taught students to blow a trumpet to help corrects problems with clarinet embouchure. Personally, I was playing the bugle from an early age and have never found it to interfere with clarinet or saxophone playing.
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Author: Tony F
Date: 2018-12-18 08:38
I play clarinet and euphonium with no problems, other than lack of skill.
Tony F.
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Author: nellsonic
Date: 2018-12-18 09:31
When I was in college I was taking a brass methods classes at the same I was preparing my senior recital. I found that I needed to increase my clarinet practice time to compensate for the strangeness that being a new trumpet player was creating in my embouchure. Later, when I was teaching middle school and elementary school band and playing trumpet almost every day, it was less of an issue.
I think that the particulars of your situation likely have more influence than anything else. If I hadn't been a somewhat accomplished clarinetist before picking up the trumpet it probably would have made both instruments much harder.
I have a very good high school clarinet student who also plays trumpet in his school's jazz band. It doesn't seem to phase him at all. He's been playing both instruments since middle school but had a couple years of clarinet lessons before he picked up the trumpet.
I also find that many people take well to some instruments and not so well to others. A high school friend of mine was a mediocre clarinet players for most of high school, but the summer before our senior year he tried bass clarinet at music camp and suddenly was a rousing success.
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Author: Caroline Smale
Date: 2018-12-19 03:52
Many many years ago, I was a clarinetist with The Band of HM Lifeguards (part of the Household Cavalry).
Apart from playing the clarinet on horseback, I, and most of the other clarinetists were expected to perform on the Eb Cavalry Trumpet, a beast of an instrument to play.
At one stage at least one of our solo clarinetists was also a member of the team of State Trumpeters.
I never made the State "A" Team, but for a year was a member of the "B" team and stationed to support The LG armoured regiment (and by default most other regiments for miles around !) then deployed in Germany.
For this time I actually played more trumpet than clarinet.
I was uncomfortable with the idea of this double at first, but later came to realise that, if anything, it actually strengthened and improved my (double lip) clarinet embouchure.
John Denman, once our LG solo clarinetist, and who spent many years playing in the USA, trod exactly the same clarinet/ trumpet doubling path just a few years before I joined up. It didn't seem to do his clarinet playing any harm.
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Author: Tom H
Date: 2018-12-19 09:27
My guess would be it varies with the individual. For many years I played trumpet a fair bit along with my band student group lessons while continuing to play clarinet professionally. I don't THINK the trumpet playing hurt me at all.
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Author: Luuk ★2017
Date: 2018-12-19 14:26
Being an (amateur) clarinettist I never tried any brass. But last year we played a march in which we had to whistle the melody half way into the piece.
I was not able to do that. Normally, whistling is no problem. But starting to whistle immediately after removing the clarinet appeared to be an unsurmountable problem for me. Most of my clarinet colleagues experienced the same. However, the brass players did not have any problems with the switch and they compensated for our lack of volume, as usually.
Regards,
Luuk
Philips Symphonic Band
The Netherlands
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