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 Daniel Ottensamer and a crystal mouthpiece
Author: Crownjewel 
Date:   2018-09-10 16:09
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Just today I saw some pictures come by on Facebook from the Vienna Philharmonic with also a picture of Daniel Ottensamer. Now I don't know if I am seeing it right but I might think he is playing on a crystal mouthpiece. Could anyone maybe confirm or debunk this? Thanks in advance

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 Re: Daniel Ottensamer and a crystal mouthpiece
Author: Paul Aviles 
Date:   2018-09-10 17:18




Certainly looks that way.


Crystal and clear acrylic mouthpieces have been around in Germany and Austria for a long time. I recall watching the Berlin Philharmonic during a filmed concert way back in the mid 70's and the whole section was playing crystal mouthpieces (I don't think acrylic goes back that far).




.............Paul Aviles



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 Re: Daniel Ottensamer and a crystal mouthpiece
Author: Crownjewel 
Date:   2018-09-10 17:36

But on the website of playnick it says that he is still playing on their mouthpieces and if I am correct they don't make crystal mouthpieces...

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 Re: Daniel Ottensamer and a crystal mouthpiece
Author: seabreeze 
Date:   2018-09-11 00:46

Players try new things out so often that makers couldn't keep track of all the changes even if they wanted to. Transparent mouthpieces could be crystal (Pomerico makes a German model), acrylic, plexiglass (these go back quite a while and some made by Viotto are still advertised on the web), or some other transparent material. In an interview just a few months ago (May 11, 2018) Daniel Ottensamer did not express any one fixed preference in mouthpieces. He said he uses "mouthpieces by Hannes Gliechweit and Nick Kuckmeir." (These are the spellings given in the transcript). The interview (with co-principal Matthias Schorn as well) can be accessed on google.com as "From the Principal's desk: Matthias Schorn and Daniel Ottensamer, Vienna Philharmonic."



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 Re: Daniel Ottensamer and a crystal mouthpiece
Author: Klose 2017
Date:   2018-09-11 01:35

I think Playnick is losing its customers. The new mouthpieces they recently released did not get much attention.

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 Re: Daniel Ottensamer and a crystal mouthpiece
Author: michele zukovsky 
Date:   2018-12-21 03:58

that is because the kuckmeir mouthpieces do not work.
i know---i bought 15 of them, and they have too much resistance. not one works.

michele zukovsky

michelezukovsky@gmail.com

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 Re: Daniel Ottensamer and a crystal mouthpiece
Author: donald 
Date:   2018-12-21 11:46

I had a Playnick mouthpiece that had some nice qualities (and a sound that was a bit too covered for orchestral playing (as principal at least) but had a nice depth and shape to it that worked well with a piano...
I sold it eventually because the intonation in the altissimo was totally un workable - it played well in tune (with various Buffet models) until the altissimo, at which point it consistently played 20c flat.

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 Re: Daniel Ottensamer and a crystal mouthpiece
Author: donald 
Date:   2018-12-21 11:47

BTW Wurlitzer used to (and may still) make their line of mouthpieces with a clear acrylic option that looked like a crystal mouthpiece.

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 Re: Daniel Ottensamer and a crystal mouthpiece
Author: rtaylor 
Date:   2018-12-21 19:01

The Wurlitzer mouthpieces are all made of the same material. They make both a solid black color and also a "smoke" color. They don't make any models that are a true crystal/glass material.

Cheers,
Robert

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 Re: Daniel Ottensamer and a crystal mouthpiece
Author: donald 
Date:   2018-12-21 23:24

Well they did at one time because I used to own one.

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 Re: Daniel Ottensamer and a crystal mouthpiece
Author: Paul Aviles 
Date:   2018-12-22 03:55

Ooooooh Donald, talk to us about that! How long ago? Where did you acquire that? How did it play vs. the standard acrylic? Where they made FOR Wurlitzer by.....Pomarico?


What we see for of Boehm crystal mouthpieces are pathetically inconsistent. Hoping that was not always the case for crystal at least in Germany (West Germany).





...................Paul Aviles



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 Re: Daniel Ottensamer and a crystal mouthpiece
Author: donald 
Date:   2018-12-22 08:49

It came with a pair of H Wurlitzer RBs that were made around 1970, but the mouthpiece was probably newer that that - was clear plastic with H Wurlitzer printed on the mouthpiece. I can't remember whether I sold it WITH the clarinets (to Colin Liu, now in the China Phil) or if it got "never returned" by a former colleague.

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 Re: Daniel Ottensamer and a crystal mouthpiece
Author: seabreeze 
Date:   2018-12-22 09:48

Zinner and Wurlitzer both made clear plastic clarinet mouthpieces; and both "acrylic" and "plexiglass" mouthpieces were advertised.



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 Re: Daniel Ottensamer and a crystal mouthpiece
Author: Paul Aviles 
Date:   2018-12-22 15:16

Donald,


Ah, you are speaking of clear acrylic then. Mine dates from 1984. Wurlitzer mouthpiece by 1984 where only available in the three "colors" of acrylic (clear, smoke and black). Zinner made hard rubber versions to include a very dense, heavy variety which was (is?) burnt orange in color. This was the material the Chicago Symphony players settled on for the short time when they flirted with playing Wurlitzer Oehler system horns in the orchestra during the '90s.




..................Paul Aviles



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 Re: Daniel Ottensamer and a crystal mouthpiece
Author: donald 
Date:   2018-12-22 21:52

If you read my posts carefully you will see I never claimed Wurlitzer made CRYSTAL or glass mouthpieces. I only mentioned it because looking at photos or YouTube they would appear to be a crystal mouthpiece

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 Re: Daniel Ottensamer and a crystal mouthpiece
Author: Jarmo Hyvakko 
Date:   2018-12-23 12:02

Acrylic and plexiglass are the same material.

Jarmo Hyvakko, Principal Clarinet, Tampere Philharmonic, Finland

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 Re: Daniel Ottensamer and a crystal mouthpiece
Author: seabreeze 
Date:   2018-12-23 17:07

Yes, mouthpieces have been sold under both names but plexiglass is (or was) a particular brand name for clear acrylic.

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